• Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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      7 days ago

      No, I expect deeply unserious analysis, I just like trying to lead these people to theory. Doesn’t work all the time, obviously, but it does work sometimes.

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        All I see is you being toxic. You’re not leading people anywhere. People will want to stay away from your way of thinking because of all the hatred in your tone. Dial it down a bit if you want to have any impact.

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          Where is the hatred? I was just asking for the base reasoning for their assertions, as they were unsupported.

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          Please demonstrate where this toxicity is. Please give examples of the “hatred in your tone” in this thread. Otherwise, you are poisoning the well and hiding it under pseudo-respectability garbage.

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      People should be able to enumerate the benefits of their preferred form of governance. They should also be able to be honest about its weaknesses and have a discussion about past failures.

      I think Socialists should be like really good sales people, not just trying to get a quick sale, but trying to convert you to a lifelong happy customer. Provide the talking points and let people decide for themselves.

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        The benefit is that there’s at least a goal that will benefit the poorest strata of society.

        Capitalism doesn’t address it at all. It’s every man for themselves and fuck everyone else. That’s textbook recipe for sick societies, like all capitalist societies on the planet. None of them work for the poorest of the people, none of them attempt to do so.

        It’s crisis after crisis, with random economical meaningless inflation fear mongering to get people to hate their fellow workers. To compete for an ever decreasing pool of jobs.

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        Sure. It’s also worthwhile to recognize trolls and not reward their bad-faith posting by interacting with them.