Over the last 12 hours the British state has acted unlawfully in detaining a total of at least 27 ordinary people sharing food at a community event and at their homes. Their only crime? They are Just Stop Oil supporters. Being a Just Stop Oil supporter is now enough to make you a suspect. Believing
Putting in political work, petitions, speaking to and informing people, writing the politicians (at best paper mail, its taken more seriously) going into a party and making change from inside, protesting normally as in on the streets and not being disruptive to the public.
In general, even doing nothing would be better as what they do is driving more people away from climate politics because they associate the highly disruptive, disrespectful and destructive people with those politics and politicians that do constructive work.
This kind of Extremism is counter productive all the way through. 99% aren’t being understanding about people metaphorically spitting them in the face even if what they stand for is technically a good thing.
I disagree that what they are doing brings any negative consequence to the movement though. Most of them are kids with no real choice. They can’t join a party. Heck, most can’t even vote. All the things you said are important and they are being done.
Most of these people are in their early 20s… And they can still do constructive work, the destructive behavior makes everyone else say its just children and either ignore or hate them. (or see them as a clownshow)
Oh and you can disagree, but that thinking is just not based in reality.
Putting in political work, petitions, speaking to and informing people, writing the politicians (at best paper mail, its taken more seriously) going into a party and making change from inside, protesting normally as in on the streets and not being disruptive to the public.
The things that have done absolutely nothing for the last 4 decades? Yeah lets keep doing it, maybe this decade guys
If you want things to change you need to constructively change things and if you think nothing was done in the last 40 years you are blind. Its not enough, but there was significant movement.
You don’t change the world by playing toddler and breaking things…
Have a better idea?
A better idea than torching the public support that was painstakingly earned over decades? I guess every idea is better.
Putting in political work, petitions, speaking to and informing people, writing the politicians (at best paper mail, its taken more seriously) going into a party and making change from inside, protesting normally as in on the streets and not being disruptive to the public.
In general, even doing nothing would be better as what they do is driving more people away from climate politics because they associate the highly disruptive, disrespectful and destructive people with those politics and politicians that do constructive work.
This kind of Extremism is counter productive all the way through. 99% aren’t being understanding about people metaphorically spitting them in the face even if what they stand for is technically a good thing.
E: fixed a spelling mistake and a missing word
I disagree that what they are doing brings any negative consequence to the movement though. Most of them are kids with no real choice. They can’t join a party. Heck, most can’t even vote. All the things you said are important and they are being done.
Most of these people are in their early 20s… And they can still do constructive work, the destructive behavior makes everyone else say its just children and either ignore or hate them. (or see them as a clownshow)
Oh and you can disagree, but that thinking is just not based in reality.
The things that have done absolutely nothing for the last 4 decades? Yeah lets keep doing it, maybe this decade guys
If you want things to change you need to constructively change things and if you think nothing was done in the last 40 years you are blind. Its not enough, but there was significant movement.
You don’t change the world by playing toddler and breaking things…
Okay, but we do also have to break things because the legal channels aren’t good enough. If they were sufficient, we wouldn’t be here, now.
🤦 Do you know how democracy works?
Do you? Have you read any history books? Do you know how your rights were attained?
Yes i know and thats why im asking you. Especially because violence didn’t work.
You’d despise the suffragettes
It’s such a shame it’s all of our collective necks that boot you’re licking so enthusiastically is stomping on, not just yours.
🤦 Man this is such a stupid take i can’t even.
Im probably doing more against climate change than most people “protesting” like that or supporting them.
Doubtful.