Researchers compare math progress of almost 1,000 high school students

Does AI actually help students learn? A recent experiment in a high school provides a cautionary tale.

Researchers at the University of Pennsylvania found that Turkish high school students who had access to ChatGPT while doing practice math problems did worse on a math test compared with students who didn’t have access to ChatGPT. Those with ChatGPT solved 48 percent more of the practice problems correctly, but they ultimately scored 17 percent worse on a test of the topic that the students were learning.

A third group of students had access to a revised version of ChatGPT that functioned more like a tutor. This chatbot was programmed to provide hints without directly divulging the answer. The students who used it did spectacularly better on the practice problems, solving 127 percent more of them correctly compared with students who did their practice work without any high-tech aids. But on a test afterwards, these AI-tutored students did no better. Students who just did their practice problems the old fashioned way — on their own — matched their test scores.

  • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    2094·
    2 months ago

    Traditional instruction gave the same result as a bleeding edge ChatGPT tutorial bot. Imagine what would happen if a tiny fraction of the billions spent to develop this technology went into funding improved traditional instruction.

    Better paid teachers, better resources, studies geared at optimizing traditional instruction, etc.

    Move fast and break things was always a stupid goal. Turbocharging it with all this money is killing the tried and true options that actually produce results, while straining the power grid and worsening global warming.

      • elvith@feddit.orgEnglish
        511·
        2 months ago

        It’s the other way round: Education makes for less gullible people and for workers that demand more rights more freely and easily - and then those are coming for their yachts…

    • Petter1@lemm.eeEnglish
      172·
      2 months ago

      Imagine all the money spent on war would be invested into education 🫣what a beautiful world we would live in.

    • otp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1916·
      2 months ago

      Traditional instruction gave the same result as a bleeding edge ChatGPT tutorial bot.

      Interesting way of looking at it. I disagree with your conclusion about the study, though.

      It seems like the AI tool would be helpful for things like assignments rather than tests. I think it’s intellectually dishonest to ignore the gains in some environments because it doesn’t have gains in others.

      You’re also comparing a young technology to methods that have been adapted over hundreds of thousands of years. Was the first automobile entirely superior to every horse?

      I get that some people just hate AI because it’s AI. For the people interested in nuance, I think this study is interesting. I think other studies will seek to build on it.

      • Kalysta@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        The point of assignments is to help study for your test.

        Homework is forced study. If you’re just handed the answers, you will do shit on the test.

        • otp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          The point of assignments is to help study for your test.

          To me, “assignment” is more of a project. Not rote practice. Applying knowledge to a bit of a longer term, multi-part project.

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      16·
      2 months ago

      The education system is primarily about controlling bodies and minds. So any actual education is counter-productive.

    • littlewonder@lemmy.worldEnglish
      39·
      2 months ago

      LLMs/GPT, and other forms of the AI boogeyman, are all just a tool we can use to augment education when it makes sense. Just like the introduction of calculators or the internet, AI isn’t going to be the easy button, nor is it going to steal all teachers’ jobs. These tools need to be studied, trained for, and applied purposely in order to be most effective.

      EDIT: Downvoters, I’d appreciate some engagement on why you disagree.

      • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        21·
        2 months ago

        are all just a tool
        just a tool
        it’s just a tool
        a tool is a tool
        all are just tools
        it’s no more than a tool
        it’s just a tool
        it’s a tool we can use
        one of our many tools
        it’s only a tool
        these are just tools
        a tool for thee, a tool for me

        guns don’t kill people, people kill people
        the solution is simple:
        teach drunk people not to shoot their guns so much
        unless they want to
        that is the American way

        tanks don’t kill people, people kill people
        the solution is simple:
        teach drunk people not to shoot their tanks so much
        the barista who offered them soy milk
        wasn’t implying anything about their T levels
        that is the American way

        Thanks for reminding me that AI is just tools, friend.
        My memory is not so good.
        I often can’t
        remember

        • littlewonder@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          Ok, I’m going to reply like you’re being serious. It is a tool and it’s out there and it’s not going anywhere. Do we allow ourselves to imagine how it can be improved to help students or do we ignore it and act like it won’t ever be something students need to learn?