For context, Dick Cheney announced that he’ll be voting for Kamala Harris.

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      No fucking shit.

      Oh yeah, I forgot, some of you can only see the world in black and white red or blue… 🙄

      News flash: a (very fucking marginally) lesser evil is still fucking evil, and you’re never going to be free of either as long as you continue to play by the rules they’ve set out for you (in fact, you’ll only ever achieve the opposite - the continued shift to the right of the Overton window to its inevitable conclusion).

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          That’s the neat part, if you aren’t American you can agitate and tell people “don’t vote, voting for the lesser evil means you end up with slightly less evil and that’s bad, instead you should not vote or ignore mathematics existing and vote third party which is a fancy way of not voting” and then suffer no consequences.

          Tell people not to vote and the party that wants to “hurt the right people” gets into power, doesn’t matter, those policies don’t touch foreign agitators.

          I’ve been in the depths of the leftist circle jerk about this. You see if we all sat home on Election Day reading Marx, then the oligarchs who rule over us would see that no one is taking part in the charade anymore. Then those oligarchs who wield tremendous wealth and power would just give up, you know, the turnout too low. All those people refused to endorse the democratic farce any further and so clearly those with power would be so red faced with embarrassment they would voluntarily give up that power and abolish capitalism.

          Those oligarchs certainly wouldn’t be delighted by the fact that the population is even cheaper and easier to control because people are sitting out. Nope, we will certainly show them by allowing them to dominate us with even more ease and at bargain prices, certainly that will end the system.

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            if you aren’t American you can agitate and tell people “don’t vote, voting for the lesser evil means you end up with slightly less evil and that’s bad, instead you should not vote or ignore mathematics existing and vote third party which is a fancy way of not voting” and then suffer no consequences.

            The entire planet suffers the consequences when Trump undoes all climate action and destabilises the world.

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            ignore mathematics existing and vote third party which is a fancy way of not voting

            I live in a blue state. Using this logic, my vote for Harris is the same as not voting, because my state is going to go blue regardless. It’s mathematics.

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              The mathematics I’m speaking of is that first past the post voting mechanisms result in two dominant parties and third parties being non viable.

              You might not like that FPTP results in this, but that’s how math works.

              Formally it’s called Duverger’s Law so if you don’t like it take it up with him.

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                So, how does that show that voting for Stein is the same as not voting?

                Duverger’s Law just explains how the system works. It doesn’t tell you who you should vote for.

                You might not like that FPTP results in this, but that’s how math works.

                Again, using the same logic, a vote for Harris in a blue state is the same as not voting.

                “The math” says that it’s impossible for my state to be anything but blue.

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              That works until it doesn’t. Keeping your state out of play means Democrats can focus their limited resources on other states. Let it become a closer contest and Democrats may find themselves expending resources in areas that should be a slam dunk.

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          The rowboat, with you at the front working your cult following ass off, carrying Cheney where HE wants to go:

          boat

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            Oh yeah? Name his position in the Democratic party.

            You may find this unbelievable, but he is allowed to vote for and endorse whoever he likes, and neither the center, nor the left can stop him.

            You don’t get to choose who boards the ship with you. It doesn’t mean the ship is sinking, and it doesn’t make him captain.

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              The man is voting for the democratic because his ideology is fundamentally consistent with the democrats.

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              When one of the most bloodthirsty ghouls in human history chooses to board your ship, you need to ask yourself “where tf is this ship going?” and start planning mutiny immediately.

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                And you need to tell me what power this civilian is going to weild before I feel the slightest concern about your fearmongering.

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        And yet you have done nothing to promote any alternative; so your faux outrage is, in fact, useless.

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          I do, plenty, but there’s only so much time and emotional labour one can waste presenting anarchism to smug libs that think electoral politics can beat fascism and can’t even see how they’re being played in to upholding the status quo that is enabling the rise of fascism with just an illusion of choice, because the people you’re talking to aren’t actually listening, they just want their bias confirmed and ego coddled, not an alternative, especially not one that requires them to look outside the box they’ve been indoctrinated in to, challenge their understanding of the world and their own actions and all the discomfort that comes with that, and act in a way that might risk the privilege the status quo and those who actually benefit from it grants them to keep them in line, demonstrating just how well it works. ¯\(ツ)