• SirDerpy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    26
    ·
    edit-2
    6 days ago

    Of course not. The Democrats rely on the military industrial complex to pay the bills, just as the Republicans do. Neither is so stupid as to shit where they eat. Only Trump is that dumb.

    • Carrolade@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      6 days ago

      The revenues of all the military companies in the US are a small fraction of Apple’s, much less the rest of the tech sector.

      Gotta keep up with the times there gramps, or next you’ll be forgetting things like we’re a net energy exporter now.

      • What do you count as military companies? Just things like Raytheon and Blackwater? Or do you include companies like Amazon and Kraft? If you’re excluding companies like Google and MS from the MIC, you’re greatly underestimating it…

        • Carrolade@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 days ago

          Fair question. Yes I was considering arms suppliers specifically. I’m not sure we can simply include every company that works with the military in any way though, it makes more sense to consider companies that get the majority of their profits from the military-affiliated work.

          I would not count Kraft as part of the MIC for instance.

      • SirDerpy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        6 days ago

        Revenue is quite an oversimplification of geopolitics in a heavily interdependent economic paradigm, kiddo.

        • Carrolade@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          6 days ago

          Regardless, thinking the MIC is what pays the bills is just, frankly, wrong. Very outdated.

          • SirDerpy@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            8
            ·
            6 days ago

            You’ve invalidated my reasoning. Luckily, I can keep repeating my ageism.

            Good luck with that, kiddo.

            • Carrolade@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              6 days ago

              No, you have not invalidated my reasoning I’m afraid, all you did was point out that revenues are not the whole picture. While true, this does not equate to the MIC being what suddenly pays the bills. To do so, it would have to either directly or indirectly contribute to the coffers the majority of the money spent. It does not, not even close.

              You can blather about geopolitics all you want, but at the end of the day a budget is a budget, and most of the money comes from a very wide variety of domestic sources that the military has no relation to. The health care industry, for instance, does extensive lobbying to the parties. No military relation, and that’s just one example.

              Your ideas are out of date. By a couple decades. Which is extremely common on here, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if you started discussing petro-dollars and an unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Middle East next, like so many of the other people on here.

              • SirDerpy@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                8
                ·
                6 days ago

                You shouldn’t expect me to waste time reading paragraphs after you’ve demonstrated your shallow understanding, kiddo.

                • Carrolade@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  5
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  6 days ago

                  Very cute. I don’t expect you to admit when you’re wrong, but I just want it to be clear to any other readers that you have no idea what you’re talking about.