There is no blog article yet, but a email has been sent to some people who pre-ordered the AMD version.
Unfortunately, due to electrical issues we recently found during validation along with late firmware delivery from our silicon vendors, we’ve had to delay the start of mass production for Framework Laptop 13 (Ryzen 7040 Series) until September. We’ll be shipping as many pre-orders as we can before the end of September, but we anticipate that many orders originally in Q3 batches will need to move into Q4. We have prepared substantial production capacity, so we don’t expect the late start to cascade into delays in later batches.
The reason is basically (as far as I understand) because this is the latest iteration of a product, and many drivers are not ready for the product, hence making it hard to conduct effective testing.
And also there are serveral small complications with new hardwares (again, paraphrasing the email):
- The back USB-A expansion card will draw high amount of power when it is empty or pluged in with a USB 2.0 device
- The back HDMI/DP will draw high amount of power, but they are working on fixing the issue through firmware
- The windows installer do not come with the up-to-date wifi driver, yet requires user to log into a microsoft account
- Some linux distro with older kernel might not have
wifigood general support out of the box, until updating the kernel, which probably will be covered by either official guide or community guide.
Fortunately, other expansion card like storage, USB-C, and USB-3.0 works fine, and they state that Fedora 38 “will work smoothly out of the box”. And they are working on fixing all of these issue or provide detailed guide to tweak these issue yourself.
I’m glad they sent out the update. Although I’m sad that it is delayed, the detailed message was appreciated.
Yeah, the most frustrating part about waiting my new framework is not actually waiting, but the lack of update. I would love to hear more about what are they are working on, roadmap etc.
But I guess given framework’s commitment to openess, there is probably not that much to talk about.
Disappointing but, as they said, better to delay and release something actually finished
Where did you get the information from your last bullet points? Was it also in the email? If yes, could you share the email in whole?
Providing Linux users a solid experience out of the box is always one of our top priorities. With help from the AMD team, we’re getting close to the target. Since the silicon we’re shipping is extremely new, a very recent kernel is needed to get complete and stable driver support. Depending on the distro you choose, there may be extra steps involved to get to a new enough kernel. We’ll have updated step by step guides ready before we start shipments, but preliminarily, we expect that Fedora 38 will work smoothly out of the box, while Ubuntu LTS 22.04.2 will need some manual effort to get a recent mainline kernel.
Sorry they didn’t mention wifi. Since the Windows section talks about wifi, I assume this is about wifi as well.
I see, and what about the other bullet points?
Since the email is not public, I am not sure what the best way to share it is… Also formating all the title and figures wouldn’t be trivial, but these are what I got from my email.
In the mean time, there is discussion of said email on the forum: https://community.frame.work/t/amd-batch-1-guild/28693/110
That’s unfortunate but notably not the fault of framework. Its just the downside of using bleeding edge chips like the afore mentioned Infineon USB controller and obviously the CPU. Other manufacturers could counter this with predetermined IO, but we all love FW for the choice they give us, so we must be patient.
Really looking forward to getting mine, I hope since it is an AMD the sleep performance can match what my steam deck is able to achieve- my intel 11th dies in less than a day in sleep
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