Except that MRTOW expressly doesn’t allow the toxicity. I’m not an incel. I have a gf and kids.

Now if you wanna make an argument that I’m an idiot or something, ok, cool. But MRTOW is just celebrating men not actually getting married because the justice system is still skewed in a lot of ways when it comes to division of assets.

It’s not anti-women. It’s anti-marriage. I love women, just not marriage. MRTOW is not related to the current MGTOW movement–which IS incels now.

Thank you!