It has been said a gazillion times over the last few months, but is it getting through to those who need to hear it?

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    I think you misunderstood. I have no idea what your nationality is and I don’t think you’re a secret agent.

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        Parrotting right wing talking points to an extent that I doubt your motives.

        I can’t tell the difference between sincere leftist people who have been duped into advocating right wing talking points loudly and long on lemmy and right wingers pretending to be left wing doing exactly the same thing.

        It’s very plausible to me that you’re genuinely intelligent, but I find the blindness to a difference in outcome between the Democrats and the Republican doesn’t square with your assertion that you’re left wing. It just doesn’t add up.

        Did you read any summaries of Kamala’s policy proposals and of project 25? It doesn’t square with the well-read about politics bit and the intelligence bit at all.

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          What “right-wing talking points” exactly have I parroted? Opposition to genocide? That’s a left-wing talking point that the right sometimes parrots.

          I’m not blind to the difference between Democrats and Republicans. However, I don’t believe in unconditional support for the Democrats, regardless of how bad the Republicans are. To offer unconditional support is to sacrifice every ounce of bargaining power I might have otherwise wielded. The worst possible thing you can do in a negotiation is to walk up to the table and say, “I’ll agree no matter what.” I do not subscribe to the ideology of lesser-evilism, which is a bad strategy from a game theory perspective. Moreover, genocide is a hard red line for me.

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            I can’t tell the difference between sincere leftist people who have been duped into advocating right wing talking points loudly and long on lemmy and right wingers pretending to be left wing doing exactly the same thing.

            It’s very plausible to me that you’re genuinely intelligent, but I find the blindness to a difference in outcome between the Democrats and the Republican doesn’t square with your assertion that you’re left wing. It just doesn’t add up.

            Did you read any summaries of Kamala’s policy proposals and of project 25? It doesn’t square with the well-read about politics bit and the intelligence bit at all.

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              Again you repeat the claim that I’m repeating “right wing talking points.” I’ll ask again, which “right wing talking points” am I repeating? Opposition to genocide?

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                  So if I don’t rally behind your candidate, it automatically means I’m acting in bad faith? Ridiculous.

                  I suppose the third of Americans who don’t vote are also all right wingers?

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                    That leftists should abstain from choosing the president, directly or indirectly, to preserve their voter purity is the right wing talking point. Like I keep saying, I can’t tell the difference between leftists who have been duped by this argument and Republican supporters who peddle it. I genuinely don’t know which you are, sorry.

                    But I really really strongly believe that if you really are a leftist, the fact that someone proposing today that you should be shot by the armed forces for your left wing views agrees that you should abstain from choosing the president because you’re a leftist, should at least give you pause. I don’t know how you can honestly both sides this shit.