“This is a collapse of the Democratic Party.” Consumer advocate, corporate critic and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader comments on the reelection of Donald Trump and the failures of the Democratic challenge against him.

Despite attempts by left-wing segments of the Democratic base to shift the party’s messaging toward populist, anti-corporate and progressive policies, says Nader, Democrats “didn’t listen.” Under Trump, continues Nader, “We’re in for huge turmoil.”

  • NatakuNox@lemmy.world
    144·
    2 months ago

    Obama, sadly was a failure. Better than any other president since FDR and Carter, but that’s not saying much. America wanted change and all we got was the ACA from him and a few less terrible trade deals. Obama deported more people than Trump and never fixed the decline in the middle class. I turned 18 when Obama first ran and was so excited for all the “change” and nothing improved sustainably for the average American. He could have solidified himself as the best ever but road the middle too often and now the party is officially dead.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      7·
      2 months ago

      We keep using that line about deportation but the problem is deportation is popular. Speedy removal and asylum in Mexico are popular. It’s easy for people to blame immigrants.

      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldOP
        3·
        2 months ago

        In the same polls Americans support deportations but also legalization of immigrants in about equal measure.

        https://www.vox.com/policy/368889/immigration-border-polls-election-2024-trump-harris

        https://news.gallup.com/poll/647123/sharply-americans-curb-immigration.aspx

        Republicans have primed Americans into thinking illegal immigrants are criminals bringing in crime and drugs into the country. Which is completely fabricated and untrue. However, since Biden, Democrats have failed to counter message and instead adopted the right wing on immigration. That’s the entire reason we see this contradiction. A genuine counter message would be popular. And it’s essential considering that Trump is going to start mass deportations, which means concentration camps for millions of Americans

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 months ago

          I agree, under the heading that if they can cart anyone away that easily, they can cart me away that easily.

          • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldOP
            3·
            2 months ago

            Yeah, the concentration camps will absolutely extend to any legal immigrants, and even people that look ‘immigrant passing’. (Not white immigrants like from Canada or Europe of course, it’s all racially motivated). I won’t be surprised if Trump begins to deport political enemies