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    2 months ago

    No state had enough third party votes to flip red to blue had they all gone blue, so can we give this a rest?

    The DNC failed, plain and simple.

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        2 months ago

        Got me there, though if you look and tally only the left candidates who might’ve actually gone for Harris otherwise it’s still not true.

        And in any case, she still loses even if she got these states.

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        It was a good campaign. Maybe it could have been even better, sure, but the amount of Monday night quarterbacking in here is silly.

        The only thing I can question about it, I’m not even sure about.

        The problem wasn’t anything the campaign did. The problem was that “did joe Biden drop out” was trending on Google the day of the election. Tell me how to reach those people.

        Do you think there weren’t enough ads? Not enough door knocking? What exactly, would you have them do?

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          No it was an objectively bad campaign. Harris should have run as a change candidate and distanced herself from Biden. That was the whole point of getting him to drop out. He was less popular than Trump

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          I don’t think you can educate people who learned Biden dropped out on election night, those people are too stupid to vote. Especially since my YouTube for weeks after Harris was the nominee, I got a lot of donation ads staring her, not once mentioning Biden.

          I don’t know if more ads would have gotten her a bigger spotlight, but I do know that its political non-sense to claim to help those who fascist targets, then ignore the calls of those who fascist targets, and then buddy up with subtler-fascists like Dick and Liz Chaney.

          Its like she was trying to say “You go along with this, you’re never going to vote for Trump, he hates you, I don’t.” And she was right, they didn’t vote for Trump as he hates them.

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        2 months ago

        “The real problem” sounds pretty plain and simple that.

        Seriously though what are you saying? What’s the point of that statement?

        They failed, that’s plain and simple. The cause behind that? Probably more complicated.

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          Yeah, and since it sounds pretty much that way, it definitely is that way and you win the internet argument, right?

          I think the main problem in discussing most issues is that people oversimply them. Memes and meme-level thinking don’t get to the essence of an issue, they just pretend to by expressing a single point of view, reinforcing the false belief that the whole issue is plain and simple, and excusing people for not bothering to exert their brains much before the scroll to the next item in their feed.

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      Third party votes were pretty much at their average. Except in Deerborn Michigan, but that’s still not enough to flip Michigan and I can’t blame Muslim voters there from being pissed.

      They should be pissed. We all should be pissed.