• BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world
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    this election was an armed robbery and 20 million witnesses

    This is just ridiculous, it was not an “armed robbery.” You don’t need to exaggerate to try and make your misguided point.

    Even I expected there to be conflict at polling locations, and minus that machete kid, nothing of note made it across my screen.

    “teach the victim a lesson.” how fucked up is that?

    How fucked up is it to demand someone’s vote while telling them they’re families lives don’t matter? The DNC did that, not anyone else. That’s been their whole play entire fucking campaign.

    I blame the DNC, I blame them for dragging us to this point.

    I blame the RNC, I blame them for pushing us to this point.

    Good, that’s where the blame should be.

    You had the opportunity to swing everything blue. had the opportunity to pressure them for four more years.

    They pressured them the last two years and the DNC refused to budge on damn near anything.

    It wasn’t non-voters who lied about Biden’s mental health. It wasn’t non-voters who pushed him through the majority of the primary while keeping pertinent health information of his secret. It wasn’t non-voters who humiliated their candidate, party, and country during a national debate because they thought they could hide his mental health decline. It wasn’t non-voters who then pushed through a candidate the constituency didn’t nominate, on a platform they didn’t want, while suppressing any criticism of the DNC.

    100,000 people cast protest votes in Michigan alone over the Palestinian genocide, which is more than the number of votes Harris lost Michigan by. They put pressure on the DNC to take them seriously and heed their concerns, and what did the non-voters, I’m sorry, the DNC do in response?

    They had how many Republicans on stage at their national convention, but no Palestinians? They sent Clinton to lecture Muslim and Arab voters that Israel was justified in their genocide because “self defense.”

    had the opportunity to set the stage for some real change in 2028.

    The Democrats have promised “real change is just four years away, we promise this time” since I was fucking born. Guess what? That bullshit excuse isn’t flying anymore. Being sold the fucking status quo every fucking election cycle is old, and it’s cost the DNC 4/7 the last elections.

    So better they just keep fucking using it and expecting the voters to deal, instead of changing their fucking platform to reflect the populace.

    you fucks sold us up the fucking river for your pride and arrogance.

    Again, that’s the DNC.

    I’m fucking mad as hell, and you want to tell me where I need to direct my anger?

    You all demanded everyone vote the way you wanted, regardless of how they felt. So yeah, I am telling you where to direct your fucking anger, and it shouldn’t be at people like me.

    Who voted fucking Harris, btw, you fucking twat. Begrudgingly, despite my displeasure with almost everything she stood for. And if you look at my comment history, you’ll see I remained adamant that no one should vote for Trump while still trying to paint a fucking realistic picture of the situation.

    Fuck your arrogant idealistic dream.

    Didn’t realize “maybe the DNC should have platformed on policies that their constituents were vocal about during the campaign” was an arrogant idealistic dream.

    Guess I should just settle for the status quo and hope the party that just showed me they wouldn’t budge will maybe budge in four years.

    You seriously hear yourself think this way, and go, “Yep, it’s the people who are wrong, not the party.” Fucking serious?

    The one who’s trying to fucking manipulate me into attacking their opposition.

    My opposition? This is what’s fucking wrong with you fucking children on this website.

    You want some hard fucking truths from someone who’s supposedly your fucking enemy?

    NO ONE fucking owes you anything in life. They don’t owe you their protection, they don’t owe you the truth, they don’t owe you fucking anything.

    So when you entitled fucking children scream and shout about all the people who didn’t vote, you need to remember that they don’t owe you fucking shit.

    You weren’t entitled to anyone’s vote simply by virtue of wanting to stop fascism, so fuck right off with this entitlement that all fucking liberal elite assholes seem to think they deserve.

    Harris was not entitled to anyone’s fucking vote, she needed to fucking earn them. Which I thought was the whole reason I got fucking 12 fucking emails every day telling me how much they need more money.

    But they fucking didn’t, and now we all suffer the consequences of their fucking arrogance and hubris. And even now, miserable entitled fucks like you actively make me just want to not vote anymore, because you fucking refuse to try and understand anything from anyone’s point of view but your fucking own.

    So no, fuck you. Maybe you and the rest of the DNC who seem to know best (but can’t fucking win an election to save their life) will understand that you can’t fucking win an election without votes, and you can’t fucking win votes without appealing to the fucking voters.

    That’s not putting forward your platform and demanding they meet you where you are. That’s putting your platform forward, and then fucking modifying to reflect what your base is telling you they want, like a fucking professional fucking adult.

    Career politician couldn’t fucking beat a convicted felon fascist who killed over a million Americans, and non-voters are to blame?! Fucking Christ.

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      This is just ridiculous, it was not an “armed robbery.” You don’t need to exaggerate to try and make your misguided point.

      Its called a metaphor

      How fucked up is it to demand someone’s vote while telling them they’re families lives don’t matter? The DNC did that, not anyone else. That’s been their whole play entire fucking campaign.

      Answer me this. How fucked up is it to tell women and lgbt people that our lives are worth less than people halfway across the world who hate us just as much as Republicans. Because thats what you abstainers did.

      They pressured them the last two years and the DNC refused to budge on damn near anything.

      If you tried for two years and got nowhere, maybe the blame circles back to yall not accepting a clear “no”.

      It wasn’t non-voters who lied about Biden’s mental health. It wasn’t non-voters who pushed him through the majority of the primary while keeping pertinent health information of his secret. It wasn’t non-voters who humiliated their candidate, party, and country during a national debate because they thought they could hide his mental health decline. It wasn’t non-voters who then pushed through a candidate the constituency didn’t nominate, on a platform they didn’t want, while suppressing any criticism of the DNC.

      It wasnt the DNC either. Biden chose to try to run, against the advice of basically everyone around him. On the other hand, you might be the only person who isnt a Republican to give a shit about wanting a primary. Definitely the first Ive encountered.

      100,000 people cast protest votes in Michigan alone over the Palestinian genocide, which is more than the number of votes Harris lost Michigan by. They put pressure on the DNC to take them seriously and heed their concerns, and what did the non-voters, I’m sorry, the DNC do in response?

      See what I said above about ignoring a clear no, and telling the rest of us marginalized Americans we matter less than Palestine.

      The Democrats have promised “real change is just four years away, we promise this time” since I was fucking born. Guess what? That bullshit excuse isn’t flying anymore. Being sold the fucking status quo every fucking election cycle is old, and it’s cost the DNC 4/7 the last elections.

      The reason the DNC doesn’t push progressive candidates, above all else, is that progressives cannot be counted on to vote. Why would they appeal to you when they know the moderate conservatives will at least show up.

      You all demanded everyone vote the way you wanted, regardless of how they felt. So yeah, I am telling you where to direct your fucking anger, and it shouldn’t be at people like me.

      We demanded people vote against an obvious evil which would be worse for Palestine than Harris. That was never up for debate. The most basic of realpolitik should’ve told you all to vote for her regardless if saving Palestinian lives was your goal. As evidended by…

      Who voted fucking Harris, btw, you fucking twat.** Begrudgingly, despite my displeasure with almost everything she stood for. And if you look at my comment history, you’ll see I remained adamant that no one should vote for Trump while still trying to paint a fucking realistic picture of the situation.

      Congratulations, you get a cookie. Now why couldnt the other 14,999,999 work that one out?

      Didn’t realize “maybe the DNC should have platformed on policies that their constituents were vocal about during the campaign” was an arrogant idealistic dream.

      Guess I should just settle for the status quo and hope the party that just showed me they wouldn’t budge will maybe budge in four years.

      Wanting the DNC to field a more progressive candidate isnt wrong. Expecting them to do so in response to not voting is an idealistic dream, and blaming them for siding with the faction that can be trusted to show up is the arrogance.

      You want some hard fucking truths from someone who’s supposedly your fucking enemy?

      NO ONE fucking owes you anything in life. They don’t owe you their protection, they don’t owe you the truth, they don’t owe you fucking anything.

      Noone owes us protection, but we owe Palestine? That makes sense/ And, tell me again, which candidate was better for them?

      So when you entitled fucking children scream and shout about all the people who didn’t vote, you need to remember that they don’t owe you fucking shit.

      You weren’t entitled to anyone’s vote simply by virtue of wanting to stop fascism, so fuck right off with this entitlement that all fucking liberal elite assholes seem to think they deserve.

      So Im not entitled to anyones vote, as an American trans woman. But Palestine is? You are at best inconsistent, and at worst a hypocrite. And the fact stopping fascism wasnt a good enough sell to earn those votes says more about you than our entitlement

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        This is just ridiculous, it was not an “armed robbery.” You don’t need to exaggerate to try and make your misguided point.
        

        Its called a metaphor

        Is it like those complicated trolley problems with 5 levers that you guys drawn on paint to explain everybody that genocide was unavoidable?