• Skyrmir@lemmy.world
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    Everyone is still pissed about inflation, and her answer to what she would do better was ‘nothing’.

    Everything else is just noise around the edges.

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      Because people pissed at inflation are fucking stupid. Inflation is down. They aren’t pissed at greedy corporations, which have been the problem the entire fucking time.

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        You know you’ve heard people say inflation hasn’t stopped because prices are still high. Like they’re going to magically get better prices when inflation stops.

        Yeah it’s stupid, welcome to America.

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          Actually they’re not wrong, wages were not increased to keep up with inflation so stopping it alone wasn’t enough.

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              I think the problem is that inflation does not impact the poorest population the same:

              The CPI weighting is based on an average consumer, the poorest people will have more sensibility to price change for things like food or rent.

              Rent and food prices increase in total by 20-25% in 4 years. If you were already tight at the beginning of the Biden presidency, you’re now have a high chance of being homeless.

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            The sad thing is that there are a thousand ways to attack prices, or even just give sound bites that the public can run with. But almost all of them would upset neoliberal billionaires, so they can never be spoken.

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          They think it’ll be like gas prices. They go up, but the “right guy” will make them come back down, ignoring the fact that that only happens with commodities like oil. Once a company raises prices, they rarely bring them back down. Tha6s called deflation, and it’s not good.

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            Well, we kind of need deflation to happen because the alternative is rising wages and that’s not fucking happening.

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              We need to do what Harris had stated, and go after all these companies price gouging like we are still in the middle of the COVID pandemic. And that is now only going to get worse with a con man in office set on making himself, his companies, and his friends (which is anyone that says nice things to him) as rich as possible by extracting what remains of the working class. They are going to weaken/dismantle unions, and likely start mass death/slave labor camps for the poor.

              He is also going to use his new position of power to pass laws to shield crypto scammers, and use his new crypto platform to undermine the US dollar and try and force more people to his crypto grift run by some of the worse humans around. And use his NFT/crypto stuff to openly except bribes to sell off the US to the highest bidder so when his dementia gets bad enough they put JD in charge he can live out the rest of his days being fed liquid cheese burgers on a golden spoon.

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                  Not sure JD would get any additional terms, the cult might want to install either Jr. or Eric and start a “royalty” line of succession. And hope that Ivanka enjoys the hellscape she helped usher in for her daughter, and women everywhere.

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                    I was kinda happy when Bush lost the nomination because that was “One less candidate for the American Royal Family, now if only somehow Clinton and Trump don’t start one…”

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              Deflation just means everyone is already starving. Deflation isn’t the start of a process, it’s the result of massive failure. Just like inflation doesn’t happen the second money is printed, it has to circulate before price inflation is a thing.

              What we need are labor groups, and taxes on companies who use government benefits as part of their wage calculation.

              In short, never try to make prices go down, instead make wages go up, and make competition control prices.

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                Deflation isn’t the start of a process, it’s the result of massive failure

                We’ve already had a massive failure. The economy doing great and yet everyone’s broke? Such a blatant lie! Time to acknowledge and lower prices to end food waste.

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                  Everyone is broke, but still buying everything in the economy? Sorry, time to acknowledge the reality that life is just hard. Deflation happens after it gets really bad.

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        We live in a nation of people that are a mix of uneducated and propagandized. If the party messaging doesn’t take that into account, that fault lies with them in addition to the voters.

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        It’s not enough that the rate of inflation is slowing. The problem is that wages aren’t going up to match inflation. When people are working two jobs and still living paycheck to paycheck, do you think it means anything to them to tell them that “um ackshually, inflation is down 0.4% from last year!”?

        This kind of disconnect is exactly why we aren’t reaching voters.

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          California voted to not raise minimum wage, too.

          Also they kept prison slave labor.

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            Come on now don’t bring up that in one of the “left most” and most populous state in the union that people are actually pretty non leftist, it might contradict some of their feel based arguments.

            America is not full of progressives. I don’t know why people here can never be convinced otherwise.

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              America is a country that lies to itself. It claims we need to make female super heroes flat chested to combat sexism, but then turn around and laugh at the idea of a female president so hard they’re willing to give Hitler a second chance.

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              America is not full of progressives.

              No it is not and I’ll toss another example on there -

              Gay marriage was only legalized nation wide by a bunch of unelected judges, and the second most-recent Democratic president “evolved” on the issue less than a decade ago.

              US postures as the world’s defender of LGBT rights when it’s “bringing democracy” places, but it’s not great at doing that internally.

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          Wages have outpaced inflation recently. Things have generally been heading in the right direction since the pandemic but it came too late and the masses are mostly ignorant or misinformed so the data is irrelevant to them. Its about how people feel as you point out, there’s not a rational argument against feelings, people feel how they feel. One side has become very good at taping into those feelings, the other side is talking about data and no one gives a shit unless the data validates what they feel.

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        Easy to say inflation is down while others are feeling it with their wallet. Biden did nothing to fight price gouging

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          He made an attempt. If you expect overnight results, make sure you do a shit ton of shrooms so you can live in a different reality.

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            I voted for Kamala, I’m under no illusion that Trump will motherfuck the economy just like he did in his previous administration. But the idiots that voted for him have the memory of a goldfish. They will still find a way to blame democrats and minorities…that’s when the real fun will begin.

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        People who rent got hit twice as hard by inflation, I know I’m paying a significantly higher portion of my paycheck in rent vs 4 years ago.

        The raw material cost increases which provide the cover/excuse for price gouging are the result of two different things the Harris/Biden admin participated in and had no real path towards solving.

        One is the fact that the vast majority of ocean shipping is going around Africa rather than the red sea, due to the ongoing genocide in Gaza that the Biden admin has been bypassing Congress to continue arming.

        Two is the cutting off of Russian oil, which resulted in ballooning costs in Europe.

        Like it or not, Harris did not provide any answers on these two fronts that looked anything like a change in policy.

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      Because fixing inflation means jacking up interest rates and cutting government spending. And no-one wants that.

      People are too stupid to understand inflation and too stupid to understand how it’s combated.