• IndiBrony@lemmy.worldEnglish
    451·
    2 months ago

    But it is about choice: your choice of which version of Linux and which variation of Firefox you’re going to use.

    Silly OP.

    • neidu3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      6·
      2 months ago

      Systemd is on my list of “meh, who cares, it works”. Plus, it’s been so long since I messed around with initd that I don’t think I’m able to do it without relearning stuff.

      I’m not a big fan of systemd messing with dns, but I’ll survive. I’m sure I can do some fidgeting and disable it, relying on editing /etc/resol.conf like I used to, but it works well enough now that I can’t be arsed.

    • JoYo 🇺🇸@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      what’s not to like? seriously, what’s not systemd these days? it just absorbs coreutils like a cancer.

      • freewheel@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        Best practices change. For example, no one is still recommending manually editing the CHS start of a boot partition on your spinning rust device in order to optimize throughput.

    • tengkuizdihar@programming.devEnglish
      13·
      2 months ago

      People bitch about it because of it’s wide usage in a system. But distros like systems because it has a wide usage within a system.

    • Limonene@lemmy.worldEnglish
      102·
      2 months ago

      Yes, most of them do, and that is why I complain about it. I want to have the choice. I don’t mind if other people use systemd; I just don’t want it forced one me.

      • freewheel@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        Gentoo, Arch, and their derivatives still exist. How important is a legacy init system to you?

          • freewheel@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 months ago

            Probably true, but Arch being what it is, there’s still the option to install sysvinit or whatever. The question remains - how important is NOT using systemd to the admin in question?

    • madthumbs@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
      64·
      2 months ago

      Yes, and that’s the FUNNY part about it! Lennart went against the UNIX philosophy and is hated for it, but so did Linus Torvalds with the monolithic kernel, and Richard Stallman with Emacs.

      • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
        92·
        2 months ago

        The “do one thing and do it well” mantra is such bullshit. You can slice up the things stuff does differently however best suits your argument. Oh, wc? I don’t use it because it violates the unix philosophy. It can count words and lines. That’s two things.

        • madthumbs@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
          11·
          10 days ago

          An image viewer or RSS feed reader comes with its own internal video player or web browser.

          -All of the sudden my keyboard controls are either changed or are gone when the video / web browser opens taking with them features like being able to download the video or do things like easily OCR on the web page. -This in addition to the internals being bloat.

          I’d rather have applications that can be setup to send images to a photo-editor, open videos in MPV, etc.

          I don’t touch ring 0 though, but this is how I understand it. -I also think that if all the main distros are using System D, it must be because it’s good (or at least the best they’ve got).

      • Vilian@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        And systemd don’t violate it, systemd is the name of the project with a bunch of binary inside each onde doing their job, it’s like complaining that Mesa don’t follow Unix philosophy just because it has multiple drives inside the project

      • superkret@feddit.orgEnglish
        32·
        2 months ago

        The Unix philosophy never made sense.
        All parts of a program should do one thing well and communicate with other modules over a simple, common interface.
        But software that offers all the features a user will need under a big umbrella with unified UI and UX is much better than “this program uses different syntax because it came from Unix and not GNU”

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
      12·
      2 months ago

      And one day you’ll learn that ‘popular’ isn’t often ‘good’. I think we called it a Lithium Lick when Apple did it.

      • udon@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        the other difference between snap and systemd is that there are clearly better alternatives to snap that are technologically superior in practically every sense and not tied to some company that tries to sell out.