Yes, most of them do, and that is why I complain about it. I want to have the choice. I don’t mind if other people use systemd; I just don’t want it forced one me.
Probably true, but Arch being what it is, there’s still the option to install sysvinit or whatever. The question remains - how important is NOT using systemd to the admin in question?
Yes, and that’s the FUNNY part about it! Lennart went against the UNIX philosophy and is hated for it, but so did Linus Torvalds with the monolithic kernel, and Richard Stallman with Emacs.
The “do one thing and do it well” mantra is such bullshit. You can slice up the things stuff does differently however best suits your argument. Oh, wc? I don’t use it because it violates the unix philosophy. It can count words and lines. That’s two things.
An image viewer or RSS feed reader comes with its own internal video player or web browser.
-All of the sudden my keyboard controls are either changed or are gone when the video / web browser opens taking with them features like being able to download the video or do things like easily OCR on the web page. -This in addition to the internals being bloat.
I’d rather have applications that can be setup to send images to a photo-editor, open videos in MPV, etc.
I don’t touch ring 0 though, but this is how I understand it. -I also think that if all the main distros are using System D, it must be because it’s good (or at least the best they’ve got).
The Unix philosophy never made sense.
All parts of a program should do one thing well and communicate with other modules over a simple, common interface.
But software that offers all the features a user will need under a big umbrella with unified UI and UX is much better than “this program uses different syntax because it came from Unix and not GNU”
And systemd don’t violate it, systemd is the name of the project with a bunch of binary inside each onde doing their job, it’s like complaining that Mesa don’t follow Unix philosophy just because it has multiple drives inside the project
People bitch about systemd? Don’t pretty much all the major distros use it?
People bitch about it because of it’s wide usage in a system. But distros like systems because it has a wide usage within a system.
Yes, most of them do, and that is why I complain about it. I want to have the choice. I don’t mind if other people use systemd; I just don’t want it forced one me.
Gentoo, Arch, and their derivatives still exist. How important is a legacy init system to you?
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Probably true, but Arch being what it is, there’s still the option to install sysvinit or whatever. The question remains - how important is NOT using systemd to the admin in question?
Yes, and that’s the FUNNY part about it! Lennart went against the UNIX philosophy and is hated for it, but so did Linus Torvalds with the monolithic kernel, and Richard Stallman with Emacs.
The “do one thing and do it well” mantra is such bullshit. You can slice up the things stuff does differently however best suits your argument. Oh,
wc? I don’t use it because it violates the unix philosophy. It can count words and lines. That’s two things.An image viewer or RSS feed reader comes with its own internal video player or web browser.
-All of the sudden my keyboard controls are either changed or are gone when the video / web browser opens taking with them features like being able to download the video or do things like easily OCR on the web page. -This in addition to the internals being bloat.
I’d rather have applications that can be setup to send images to a photo-editor, open videos in MPV, etc.
I don’t touch ring 0 though, but this is how I understand it. -I also think that if all the main distros are using System D, it must be because it’s good (or at least the best they’ve got).
The Unix philosophy never made sense.
All parts of a program should do one thing well and communicate with other modules over a simple, common interface.
But software that offers all the features a user will need under a big umbrella with unified UI and UX is much better than “this program uses different syntax because it came from Unix and not GNU”
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And systemd don’t violate it, systemd is the name of the project with a bunch of binary inside each onde doing their job, it’s like complaining that Mesa don’t follow Unix philosophy just because it has multiple drives inside the project
And one day you’ll learn that ‘popular’ isn’t often ‘good’. I think we called it a Lithium Lick when Apple did it.