• Varyk@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    8 hours ago

    “the thing you’re fixated on is the futile thing”

    The only way you can think civil rights are futile is if you have already given up.

    If that’s the case, then take yourself out of the equation and stop talking about issues you don’t care about.

    If you haven’t given up, explain how making sure people have civil rights is futile.

    “it assumes…”

    no, it doesn’t. you’re making assumptions, don’t do that.

    “special interests” (it’s the capitalist class…"

    Yes, those are special interests.

    “I don’t think a qanon style campaign to stop the steal is realistic”

    this is literally what I’m telling you. step away from qanon, Focus on real evidence and making changes that benefit people.

    you’re fixated on the futility of everything, but you are incorrectly assuming that nothing can be changed because you are not willing to fight for that change.

    that is simply incorrect.

    people thought Trump was going to have his second term 4 years ago, and then he was voted out.

    change happens all the time, you’re complaining that it can, despite overwhelming constant evidence that things are always changing.

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      you are incorrectly assuming that nothing can be changed because you are not willing to fight for that change.

      I’m literally out there multiple days of the week organizing, we’ve fed thousands over the years.

      In person organizing around addressing the material issues is what’s needed, not slapping a new coat of paint on the war machine every 4 years.

      “the thing you’re fixated on is the futile thing” The only way you can think civil rights are futile is if you have already given up.

      I don’t think you’re fixated on civil rights, you’re fixated on winning a carnival game that I’m trying to explain to you is a sideshow compared to what’s going on outside the circus (and it has always been rigged).

      Let me know if you need any help with your cosplay, I’m good with a sewing machine.

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        7 hours ago

        “I’m literally out there multiple days of the week organizing”

        got it, thanks for that, but here you’re venting futility all out here without any reason to.

        “I don’t think you’re fixated on civil rights”

        that’s your problem right there.

        “you’re fixated on…”

        remember how you were wrong the previous times you tried to make assumptions?

        you’re wrong here too.

        If you care about helping people, be aware that your defeatist whinging here is counterproductive to your stated goals.

        “not slapping a new coat of paint on…”

        if you’re living in the states then you are literally slapping new paint on the war machine every 4 years.

        where do you think your taxes go?

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          if you’re living in the states then you are literally slapping new paint on the war machine every 4 years.

          Yes that’s what I’m saying and it’s a little weird to be so invested in what color it is rather than addressing the material issues.

          Have fun melting down over the election, I’m going outside.

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            6 hours ago

            “and it’s a little weird to be so invested in what color it is”

            it is weird you care enough to continually rant about these issues and swear you don’t care, so it’s good you’re joining me outside.