• Chozo@fedia.io
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      21 days ago

      I’m not defending Thompson. I’m just saying that comparing him to Bin Laden is asinine.

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        21 days ago

        How many people do you need to kill before you’re worse than Bin Laden? At least Bin Laden had legitimate grievances with (some of) his victims; this guy was killing thousands every year for money.

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        21 days ago

        You’ve been on the wrong side of this thread a lot. Perhaps you have a lot to reconsider. You strike me as a kapo.

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          21 days ago

          If being against vigilante killers puts me on the “wrong side”, then go ahead and start putting up a fence along that line, because I’m not crossing over it.

          Thompson was a piece of shit, but now he’s never going to face consequences. Maybe you’re okay with that, but I’m not. I’d rather see him rotting in a cell while all his belongings are stripped from him and given back to his victims. Giving him a get-out-of-jail-free card is the farthest thing from justice, IMO.

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            He did face the consequences, but his fellow executives who were just as much to blame haven’t and likely never will. This isn’t a solution, but it is a warning sign that things are approaching a tipping point. Historically when things get this bad and the “peasants” start pulling out guillotines and scaffolds things have gone very badly for both the ruling class and many of the ones leading the executions, but in the wake of such things there is some improvement. This is a significant warning to politicians and lawmakers that if they don’t do something soon to address the rampant corporate greed and rapaciousness this sort of thing will start becoming more common and eventually the mob will be coming for them as well.

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              21 days ago

              He did face the consequences

              No, he’s dead. He’s free from any prosecution, never having to answer for his actions, and all his money gets to stay in his family. Literally the easiest way out, and the only people who benefit from this are people who are already wealthy off of health insurance CEO money.

              This is a significant warning to politicians and lawmakers that if they don’t do something soon to address the rampant corporate greed and rapaciousness this sort of thing will start becoming more common and eventually the mob will be coming for them as well.

              No, it’s a warning to corpos to start hiring security. That’s the only change that will happen. They’re just going to make themselves harder to reach. Vigilantism rarely ever results in any meaningful change, and even more rarely does that change benefit the victims.

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                More security won’t save them. For a time it will stop these vigilante style attacks, but if that outlet is cut off eventually you’ll see large mobs leading the attacks instead and security won’t be able or willing to stop them.

                Death is the ultimate consequence. His family has kept the wealth for now, but if it gets bad enough that won’t last either.

                Your problem is you’re taking the principled stance of how a fair system should work, but we’re well past that point now. The system is broken and rigged. Desperate people when given the choice between lashing out randomly at those responsible or wasting time and energy playing rigged games that don’t achieve anything will opt to lash out even if it doesn’t accomplish much in the long term.

                Things are at their breaking point and it’s going to get messy. These sorts of things are just the first cracks along the stress points. If significant changes to reduce peoples frustrations aren’t made it will lead to significantly more violent events like this.

                The rich should be very scarred right now because there’s absolutely nothing more dangerous than a group of people backed into a corner and desperate.

                Should whoever did this have done this? No. But by the same token most people aren’t going to be particularly bothered by this either. A complete scumbag got murdered and considering the society we’re living in now that’s literally the only bad thing that could have happened to him. He was never in any danger of facing consequences from his actions through legal means.

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            21 days ago

            I’d rather see him rotting in a cell while all his belongings are stripped from him and given back to his victims.

            That was never even an option. Everything he did was legal. It was completely morally bankrupt, but there aren’t any crimes to pull him in on, nor was there anyone who would do it. The system is broken.

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            You’re just mad it wasn’t done how you like it. Think about that.

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              Uhh yeah. No shit? The way I would’ve wanted it done is one in which the victims get something out of it. Now they get nothing.

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                They get revenge. Maybe you can’t eat it nor you can use it as a medicine to cure your illness, but you can use it to sleep and live better knowing that, one way or another, for some of these people the clock is ticking.

                I, at least, have slept much better after receiving this news. And I’m not even American, just a simple European hoping that this trend will be imported from America like many others before it.

                (I say imported but we actually are far more advanced than American in this matter. During the 70s there were a lot of terror groups fighting for a better society and what did we get? Social security, a fairer economy and personal rights such as divorce and abortion. After the 90s the situation was so good that these groups disappeared and in 30 years time we’re back at where we were before the terror season. Maybe it’s time to get back to where our fathers left us)