There are 3 manifestos circulating. One is definitely fake as it was written by someone with an average intellect at best. It goes on to reference the Ridley Scott film “Gladiator” and is rife with spelling and grammatical errors. The second one that police released to the media with instructions not to publish it starts off boot licking cops saying “(to the feds) I appreciate what you do for our country” and the one i believe to be the legitimate Manifesto is on his personal website which shares his twitter handle. People have attempted to discredit this one by saying the metadata says it was created December ninth, however this does not add up. Firstly when you type the URL into the website age checker it says it was created sometime in july 2023. Secondly if you search the link in google you will see it is timestamped December 3rd. The day before the shooting. It is hosted in Rekyjavik Iceland on an encrypted .WHOIS server. However this is not all that leads me to believe it is legitimate.
Next if you examine the main page of the website you will see there are 2 posts as well as links to Mangione’s twitter, Github, LinkedIn and email address. Also the 2 links are tech projects he worked on. One is an AI project and the other is a robotics engineering project where he created a robot that mimics his own movements. This post has 3 pictures/.gifs of him controlling the device through his movements. These images are not located anywhere else online.
Next i analyzed the manifesto on this site and there are zero grammatical or spelling errors. I then had chat gpt do some analysis of the document. Firstly I asked if it appeared to be written by a person or an AI and it unequivocally answered that it is human generated. Next i had it assess the level of intellect and schooling as well as the age of the writer. It said the writer appears to be between the age of 30-50 but a high level of prestigious schooling could mean that the writer is indeed younger.
Now I remembered seeing someone post a twitter link to a paper mangione wrote about Christianity and the roman empire. So i pulled this up entered it into chat gpt and had it run an analysis on both. I then asked what the likelihood that both of these documents were written by the dame author and chat gpt said it was very likely especially if the manifesto was written years after the first allowing the writers skill level to increase. I have the chat gpt conversation screen shots if people would like me to post them or have any other ideas as to how this manifesto could be further analyzed.
But the manifesto that I believe to be the real deal is located at www dot pepmangione dot com backslash manifesto. I would link it but it seems the entire internet is on damage control for billionaires to scrub as much pro mangione content as they possibly can. Ive had YouTube comments shadow hidden and removed for just spelling out this link as I’ve done above
I used to be on reddit but luckily for me i didnt have to deal with tje insane censorship resulting from this phenomenon. However i had to deal with it 6-7 months ago when i was perma-IP banned for pointing out that international law states indigenous populations have a right ro defend themselves by any means necessary including the big V word. Now ive seen more than half a dozen Luigi Mangione Reddit subs wiped from existence in the last 10 days. Ive seen posts on photoshop battles nuked. Ive seen a sub with users who are flared as uhc corporate affiliated spreading ridiculous propaganda that was then parroted bu CNN 2 days later (brian Thompson is the new george floyd and other ridiculous shit) this sub is r/fuckluigimangione it reads like satire but their automod is ready to state otherwise anytime anyone asks if it is satirical.
We are living in a blatantly fascist plutocratic oligarchy.
As a decades experienced web engineer, I’d like to know, what is an encrypted .WHOIS server? In all of my time, I’ve never seen those words put together in that order.
I think what you’re trying to say is that the WHOIS data associated with the domain is from a privacy service, not an actual person. You can pretty clearly see in that data that the domain was registered on Dec 9th of this year, and that part can’t be faked (at least, it can only be faked by the registrar, and I don’t think NameCheap Inc is in on it). So unless he set this domain up right before they arrested him, no, this is not his domain.
The IP address in the A record for that domain belongs to Amazon Inc, and is located in San Jose, CA. That pretty much shows that it’s running on an AWS machine. So yeah, literally anyone with some basic web knowledge could have set that up in a few minutes.
As even further evidence that it wasn’t him, the Wayback Machine only shows snapshots of that domain since Dec 9, 2024, the day the domain was registered. And the page changes between the night of the ninth, and the morning of the tenth, while he was in custody.
Thanks for your input. I do not have an expert grasp of coding or programming.
Is there no possibility one could have set this domain up to release after being arrested either by oneself or with a participating party?
That would be a stupid way to do it. Setting up the infrastructure can happen months before any content is visible.
Hyperrins explanation points to the idea that someone was actively setting this up when the news of the arrest dropped.
If it was set up beforehand, the content would be available on the first snapshot or there would be blank Wayback entries for more than only a few hours.
Whats the most possible scenario for someone having a message website release after suddenly becoming indefinitely or permanently indisposed?
This concept is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_man's_switch and the implementation is the service is set up, and periodically checks some criteria. If the criteria is not met, the payload is sent.
The criteria could be, some device does not sync for a certain amount of time, a series on of numbers isn’t entered into the bunker console after a timer runs on, a building floods and sets off a sensor, whatever you want. Could be GPS location on your phone doesn’t leave home on a workday. Anything.
The payload also varies. A message or vault of files is sent to someone specific, or made public on the web. The payload could be an automated incendiary if you are nuts. Probably people just delete their browser history.
This is a piece of infrastructure. There would be some evidence of things being set up before he topped the fucker.
Did you just reference lost?
Idk why j didn’t just say dead man switch. Momentary brain fart
If the dead man switch went to another party who was given the code in advance then was instructed to pay for the site and have it posted what evidence would there be?
Yes lost
Also co-conspirators? There would be evidence of communications or something. There might be conspirators that haven’t been uncovered yet, who knows.
Edit The criteria could be a buddy sees stuff on the news and then does all this, it’s just unlikely, being unreliable, and apparently this dude cut everyone out of his life. He might have some clandestine messaging to a specific person but that’s incredibly risky.
Well if hes as smart as he should be he would have figured out how to use pgp end to end encryption. If he did in fact have evidence on him he probably wanted to be caught and take responsibility for what he did. But no use supplying them with more evidence than they need. And also j think they are posturing with what evidence they say they have. The barrel of tje gun was a glock and glocks have polygonal rifling in the barrell which is impossible to get any reliable ballistics evidence from.
Itll be interesting to watch this case unfold and see where it goes if the general public will even be allowed to spectate given the terrorism enhancement
If. How many individual technical skills does one or two people need to have?
The real shame here is that he apparently didn’t figure out to use PGP signing in order to release a manifesto that could be cryptographically proven to be authentic.
I can’t say there’s no possibility, but the probability is incredibly low. The domain was registered on the day he was arrested, likely after he was arrested, because the first Wayback snapshot is at 2:47 PM EST and the page is blank. Meaning, a web server had been set up to respond to requests, but no content had been added, so it just responded with an empty body. The first snapshot with content was taken two hours later at 4:28 PM EST.
The rat that ratted him out called 911 shortly after 9 AM, which means he was in custody during this time.
The story had just started to spread by the early afternoon, so whoever registered the domain could have done so after learning his name from the news. (Utah Dispatch posted the story at 12:39 PM.)
The rat that ratted him out was likely also fabricated since his mother called police days before the arrest saying that the picture looked like him and thid seems like something he would do.
I read someone who described a digital police tool called mark-23 which allows police to access the microphone and camera of mobile phones even when they are off and the battery removed and also provide location data in real time accurate to within a few feet. That and mcdonalds self ordering kiosks have AI and Facial recognition built in so it’s extremely likely they made up nancy parker to not further anger the proletariat. Just a hunch though.
Well, regarding the phone thing, modern phones don’t have removable batteries, but it’s very unlikely that the cops have a way to access the camera and microphone even when the phone is on. Cops have a notoriously difficult time just unlocking a phone that’s in their possession. The FBI/CIA etc might be another story. Who knows what active exploits they’re using.
But if your phone is powered off, it won’t be sending or receiving any data, both of which require power and create EM signals that can be detected. Unless your phone advertises some sort of remote wake feature, once it’s off, it’s off. It is doing nothing but tracking the time (RTC is always on in all modern tech with any sort of battery).
Cops can, however, triangulate your location to within a block or two using your phone’s cell tower pings. Those happen as long as your phone isn’t in Airplane mode. It takes a while (like, an hour or two), and the phone company has to do it for them, but that’s often how they find missing people.
Edit: recent iPhones DO have a sort of remote on function, btw. It’s not cellular, but some propriety thing based on MagSafe, so it requires a machine to be within a few inches of the phone. Basically it uses the same circuitry as the wireless charging does.