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        Centrists have no platform other than keep everything the same and pretend to do something everyone wants. When it fails, they continue to do nothing. All the while making money with insider trading and running reelection campaigns.

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      Yep, Which was another way of saying nothing will fundamentally improve either. Where is that old “Mission accomplished” banner from George W’s stupid flight suit speech after desert storm. Biden can reuse that.

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      True, the CHIPS act, infrastructure bill, inflation reduction act, the largest investment into climate change in US history, allowing Medicare negotiation for the first time in history and persistent support of Ukraine against fledgling populace support, and an economy that’s the envy of the world, all amount to nothing huh.

      God damn, what did you want?

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        True, the CHIPS act, infrastructure bill, inflation reduction act, the largest investment into climate change in US history

        The government throwing money at corporations and calling it progress is not fundamental change.

        allowing Medicare negotiation for the first time in history

        For 10 drugs. And legislation that only benefits old people is also not fundamental change.

        and persistent support of Ukraine against fledgling populace support

        The US funding a proxy war (I support Ukraine, but let’s call this what it is) is not a fundamental change.

        and an economy that’s the envy of the world

        You know that when you toss in shit like this, it casts doubts on the rest of your comment, right?

        God damn, what did you want?

        A minimum wage increase. Rescheduled cannabis. The childcare and education provisions promised and then gleefully jettisoned from BBB. Legislation to protect democracy. Legislation to protect Roe. You know, the things Biden promised when he was running. The word he just said he kept.

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          This is such a milquetoast retort.

          You have such a misunderstanding of government if you think federal funding allocation is not fundamental change, it’s a core function of government. Funding semiconductor production to reduce dependence on Taiwan has such far reaching consequences.

          Durr, unless ALL medications can be free, it’s a worthless bill!

          Another complete misunderstanding of government powers, of course it had to be with bipartisan medications, do you not think the house and senate wouldn’t filibuster over broad sweeping healthcare changes?

          What would you have preferred Biden do in Ukraine?

          And a strong economy directly tied to the Build Back Better Act gets a “no” from you. Good one.

          I could go through each of your shithouse Biden demands, but as soon as I saw a federal wage increase I knew you had no grasp on the role of federal government. Why should the minimum wage in Utah be the same as California?

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            You have such a misunderstanding of government if you think federal funding allocation is not fundamental change

            Giving handouts to corporations is par for the course. Not a fundamental change.

            Durr, unless ALL medications can be free, it’s a worthless bill!

            I guess since you have proven completely incapable of debunking anything I’ve actually said, making shit up is a great alternative.

            Another complete misunderstanding of government powers, of course it had to be with bipartisan medications, do you not think the house and senate wouldn’t filibuster over broad sweeping healthcare changes?

            You have a poor grasp on the idea of “fundamental change.” You seem to be of the opinion that it means “pissing about at the edges and doing as little as possible.” Also, the House has no filibuster and the Senate could have eliminated the filibuster forever at any time with a simple majority vote, which is all it takes to alter Senate rules.

            What would you have preferred Biden do in Ukraine?

            Been more supportive than he was. But I’m not going to pretend that what he did for Ukraine is in any way a deviation from the norm. It was not a fundamental change.

            And a strong economy directly tied to the Build Back Better Act gets a “no” from you. Good one.

            Considering BBB didn’t pass, yeah. I don’t give credit for non-accomplishments.

            I could go through each of your shithouse Biden demands

            You asked, and I provided a list of broken promises. If Biden wanted to say he kept his word, he should have kept his word.

            but as soon as I saw a federal wage increase I knew you had no grasp on the role of federal government.

            “You don’t know how government works” is just what centrists say when they’re wrong. You’ve said some variant of it three times in this comment alone.

            Why should the minimum wage in Utah be the same as California?

            Well, that wasn’t the position I stated. Wages should go up because prices have gone up without a wage increase since 2009.

            Now to address your strawman directly: An hour of a person’s life is not worth less in Utah. No matter how much you think that that person is worth less.

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        Doesn’t matter what he did if he couldn’t do the one thing we elected him to do, keep Trump out o office. Everything he did will be undone and the only legacy he’ll have is being a sad footnote between two Trump terms.