• CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works
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    My first was Mint but i installed (as second boot) Open Suse to try it out, sticked with mint for the most part but i and some friends also run a custom Distro for a Server (its Debian Based)

    Mint is just a Workhorse that never failed me. And once you settled you won’t adapt to something different easily.

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      Mint has so far been the only distro that had 100% of my laptop working. There are other systems that come close, even past 99, but there’s always that one little annoyance. Not with Mint.

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      Its just so simple. I see people complaining about getting Nvidia drivers to work on Linux, with Mint it takes like two clicks.

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        Yes, I’m an Nvidia user on Ubuntu (soon to switch to something else I think). The issue is the drivers on Wayland suck. Routine screen tearing with dual monitors (even if the second one is disabled in GNOME Settings). It also gives me issues with hardware acceleration for OBS captures. Had I been planning ahead I would’ve gone with AMD, but I got the 3070 for a great price during the shortages so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

        Edit: to be clear, it’s fine and usable with one monitor, but still annoying. Switching to X11 gives me a whole different set of issues that just isn’t worth the tradeoffs. I still play games with no fuss with one monitor, it just sucks that I have framerate issues running OBS at 1080p30 capture with a 3070

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        And most importantly you have options. Once I had issues after updating the driver, but Mint makes it so easy to just go back.
        I use Debian now, but that driver thing I am jealous of.

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        Nvidia drivers are the exact reason why I switched back to Windows a decade ago (from Fedora 20 or something, can’t remember). Granted it was another era. But back then, it simply didn’t work. I never tried again

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      I feel like pretty much every beginner has used Linux Mint. It’s like getting a handheld tour where you can ask anything and nobody will judge you.

      I wonder if that’s changed much recently with relatively beginner friendly distros like EndeavorOS and Garuda.

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      Is it possible do downgrade a central package without apt asking if you want to uninstall your entire system yet?

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        Apparently you didnt read about the update process.

        What you do in debian is simply beautiful:

        You rock stable and once a newer package is required, you install from backports. When a the package goes to a next stable version, you can remove the backports. It will transition automagically.

        Take this and put it in your pipe!

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      tried it but I quite like how mint looks so I tried it with cinnamon and god default cinnamon is ugly and I dunno how to get all the mint theming so that was a deal breaker for me

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    This is the kind of meme that makes me both happy and sad.

    Happy becuase it’s so funny, but sad because nobody I know personally would get it lol.

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    I started my whole Linux experience with Ubuntu 6.10. IIRC Compiz Fusion or Beryl was the shit back then with the 3D cube effect and the windows going off in flames when you close something.

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      Ubuntu was a fantastic distribution to start early on. Especially in the pre-10.x days there weren’t many beginner friendly ones. Your alternatives were Debian with very outdated software, SuSE which was kind of OK, Fedora which was also quite unstable and lacking packages (remember hunting RPMs on the old RPMfusion?) or Ubuntu. At some point I’d outgrown Ubuntu and moved on to greener pastures. Nowadays I’m not sure I’d be recommending Ubuntu to new users, Fedora is quite good and without all the snap store shenanigans. Even Debian installation experience is not too bad and it’s not lacking too much in software.

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        I think PopOS is the new beginner friendly, just works, distribution. It’s what Ubuntu should have been.

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          I also feel less worry about System76 trying to capture market share and then do a heel turn to monetize on that market share. We all know exactly where the money comes from for System76, and it’s not selling support contracts

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        The other distro I tried out was openSuSE, but idk which version. It was shipped with KDE3 or 3.5, and man, I loved it. RPMs and YaST was something to get used to, especially after Ubuntu and I was like… 15-16 yeara old, barely just into Linux land so broke the shit out of them pretty regularly. But I learned a lot.

        Then KDE4 and Plasma came out and I hated every pixel of it.

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    Honestly, I’m starting to appreciate the “Just works” mentality a little more as I start to shy away from ricing. I’m going to stick with non-systemd distributions, but my DE will likely be cinnamon next, since it’s easy to use and I don’t care about making it look pretty.

    I feel Void + a simple DE is an amazing combination for people who want to get work done without paying too much of attention to the OS, except the part of the OS they are using actively (tooling + applications)

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      Why non-systemd distros? I have heard of not-systemd distros like Artix and Devaun (I think that’s how you spell them), but I never bothered looking into why some people prefer them.

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        Systemd is easier but also slower, it dose a lot more than just a init system and many dislike that. I have used both and it’s cool to see E.g. PostmarketOS boot but systemd works really well nowdays too and the actual backlash is mostly from it’s early days.

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        It’s philosophical: I want an init system, not a gargantuan binary blob that does who knows what and apparently removing it breaks completely unrelated parts of my system just because this little shit seems to have a hand in its operation

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    Glad to see that debian does get some love over here…I always felt like a pariah in linux reddit comunities

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      Ubuntu is based on Debian Testing (their beta pipeline) and run by a for profit corporation. Ubuntu makes significant changes to Debian to get it to where its easy to use for end users. It has in the past made choices that were extremely unpopular in the open source community, and will make those decisions again in the future.

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        Never much liked ubuntu but admittedly, they did a lot for userfriendliness in the Linux space and a lot of great beginner (or people who don’t want to deal with stuff not working) friendly distros like mint, pop, etc are based on it, oftentimes debullshittet (e.g. neither use snap by default)

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          Yeah I don’t want to take away from that Ubuntu’s installers completely changed the Linux game. I just feel like the rest of the space caught up on the ease of use, and I’m not actually sure Ubuntu offers up that much these days

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      I would liken it to more like if Debian was a shot of whiskey, Ubuntu is like a whiskey sour. It still has whiskey as a base but enough ingredients have been added and changes have been made that it’s its own thing.

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      Isn’t Debian just GNU/Linux with some extra features?

      A distro’s a distro. You could rip dnf out of Fedora, install apt if you like.

      It basically comes down to the default settings/packages shipped, and philosophy.

      Ubuntu adds a much different install experience, snaps, and some features good for enterprise out of the box.

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          Yeah, snaps are truly bloat. I always stayed away from Ubuntu, mainly because of Canonical. Debian is amazing stability wise. Definitely a good choice. I like to live a little more on the edge though, so I use NixOS (it’s great, I can update without ever worrying about breaking my system).