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      Lots of shit therapists out there.

      A friend of mine, his ex-wife’s therapist encouraged her to have an affair. An old highschool fling reached out to her, and she was essentially perpetually stuck in highschool due to some intense trauma around that age. Therapist said to go for it.

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        Always look at a potential spouse’s friends before getting married. Do they cheat, slack off, and just generally kind of suck? Your spouse-to-be will almost certainly follow their example. I say this because most people’s “therapist” are their friends and if their friends are maladjusted assholes you can probably expect more of the same.

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      I had the exact same conversation with mine, when I was 20.

      It’s hard to believe that you’ll have a better experience elsewhere, especially when you have already spent hundreds of € on that one.

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    Even knowing a shitty human therapist personally didn’t shake me. It was dating apps. The amount of women I see that I’d run from at full speed, then notice they’re therapists… Jfc (I 100% believe everyone should be in therapy. There are shitty physical health doctors too.)

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        I mean, with how common back problems are in people of all ages, maybe we should all be seeing physiotherapists

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          I know I should be. I would genuinely benefit more from a good massage therapist than a psychotherapist at this point in life.

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        It’s more like saying everyone should get a physical on a regular basis. We all need a check up now and then.

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        You’re reminding me of a certain quote… “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” -J.Krishnamurti

        As fucked up as this world is, if you’re well adjusted to it, you’re broken and probably should see someone, and if you’re not, you need therapy to make it through the evolving dystopian hellscape. …so yeah, I think that’s what they’re saying.

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          I mean… yes? Some days I feel that way, and reading your words makes sense to me. In this case I simply meant we should care for our mental health like physical and normalize it. But seeing dude compare therapy to needing a specialist for an acute problem, then reading your response… Yeah, you’re def right in this case. Broken is normative.

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      It’s sad that it’s true. Therapists are in high demand, and part of the reason we need more therapists is that about 1/5 of current therapists are basket cases in denial who use the idea of therapy to fulfill their own desires to control and manipulate others.

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    Men: never go to a female therapist, they will NEVER be able to understand you from a man’s perspective. All they see is abundance, with men chasing them and paying attention to them, and will never understand how few choices those men in the bottom-80% are left with.

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    I feel like I need to say that if this was your experience you had a really shit therapist and deserve better. I’ve felt like this with a therapist before and it’s terrible. It’s ok to drop a therapist over this and try a different one.

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        Welcome to America, where we have degree mills you can buy doctorates from and an understaffed health industry that will take whoever they can get. Never trust that a medical professional will act with your best interest in mind until you’ve established a relationship with them and know they’re actually competent.

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      Seem like just opening up to a friend and them questioning things. Doesn’t sound like a proper therapist.

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        You can actually say “ass” here, btw.

        Fuckin’ mainstream social media-ass comment.

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          I read it as “better help uhh therapist” because of the stupid ass self censorship. I’m not blaming the user for doing it, just annoyed for natural real world language getting hamstrung to satisfy advertisers. How long until “tisk tisk tisk! You can’t say ‘ahh’, that’s a naughty word!”?

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            That’s really, genuinely never made sense to me. If I’m going to say “freaking cold” it has the exact same meaning as “fucking cold”. So what’s the difference? Yet one is acceptable and one is, *clutches pearls*, a bad word. :O

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            I’m not going to downvote you for this, because you’re allowed to think that, but I want you to know that I want to because you’re wrong. Lol

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            Personally I prefer “arse” with an uppity RP (Received Pronunciation) accent.

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          Yeah but saying ahh is funny

          Ass is just crass (also, this has the same energy as redditors who complain about emojis)

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            I mean, if the specific word you want to use seems to be an inappropriate tone, maybe find a different way to say what you’re trying to say instead of injecting a filter-bypass replacement for the same word you didn’t feel was an appropriate tone?

            Betterhelp-coded therapist

            Sounds like Betterhelp’s caliber of therapists

            Lemme guess, this “therapist” was via Betterhelp

            For a couple of examples

            Edit: I see you didn’t post the original comment. Oops!

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      My bet is this is fake. A large part of incel groups is making sure no one seeks help, so they stay longer. If you demonize therapists then that’s one more path to then existing removed.

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        I know better than to assume that anything posted to 4chan actually happened, but I also know from personal experience that moments just like this one DO happen to people. So even if this particular story is a fiction or was intended to serve some other purpose, it’s portraying a familiar moment for many people and I wanted to acknowledge that and encourage people to seek better help.

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      So many people have this experience and never come back. Took me 4 to find the right one. (Meaning good at their job and had a good raport with me)

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      I feel like I would be a better therapist than this and I have no training or desire to get in that field! But I sure as shit wouldn’t go out of my way to shame someone with low self-esteem who’s literally trying to improve themself. If that conversation was verbatim, I’m not exaggerating when I said the therapist should be suspended.

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    Find a better therapist. Just because someone goes to school and gets a professional credential doesn’t mean they don’t suck at their job.

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      I’d still trust those more than I would a therapist without even professional credentials.

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      Why talk to a professional when I can simply talk to my very normal, very mentally healthy anons on the green text site?

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      Even if they aren’t bad at their job, someone who doesn’t have enough similarity of life experience to have a basic understanding of what you’re going through could be a bad fit anyway.

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        The whole “similarity of life experience” bit is the hard part if you’re an outsider without much in common with the liberal elites that make up the vast majority of therapists.

        It’s really not a surprise that therapy is recommended pretty exclusively by people from the same demographic group as therapists, nor that people who get excluded from the highly exclusionary and non-diverse liberal society tend to strongly dislike the profession.

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          I can’t for the life of me figure out why you’re being downvoted. It’s absolutely true. Maybe it’s because people don’t understand what you mean by “liberal elites”? That’s not a synonym for democrat voters. It’s people who have been served by the status quo (neoliberalism) their whole lives and therefore see nothing wrong with it. Conservatives (especially the never trump or ambivalent about trump types) are just right wing liberals… conservatism falls under liberalism.

          Liberal ≠ left.

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            because it ignores the fact that there are people with significant mental illnesses that have been failed by the status quo who are still able to receive help through therapy.

            The comment only makes sense if you assume therapy is like the strawman presented in the greentext. Broadly speaking, there is widespread evidence that therapy is effective in helping people with mental illnesses survive and thrive in modern society. It’s not just for liberal elites to chat about their first world problems, even if that group is most likely to be scammed by an unqualified therapist. Unqualified therapists do exist, just like there’s shitty doctors and shitty dentists, because capitalism incentivizes shitty people to go into these fields for profit, but they’re a minority in an underutilized and stigmatized system.

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        *doctor who works for a health insurance company denying claims in a field of healthcare they have no experience or education in

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    Probably fake, but a therapist should never say anything like that. I’m in my 30’s and a virigin, and no doctor, therapist, etc., has ever asked me anything close to that. And if they did, I’d be searching for a new therapist. Wouldn’t even finish the session.

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      Uncle in therapy for second nervous breakdown. Therapist tells aunt that hell be a dead weight aroind her neck. Tells him to go fishing - he hates fishing. This was a recommended therapist from a good GP.

      Another family member with past addiction and suicide attempts went to a different GP seeking therapy. Was told by the GP humans have been to the moon and can do anything so stop being so depressed. Wtf does that even mean.

      Shitty people are in every profession.

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        That’s about the story of how am I about to try a fourth one in so many years. Gosh is it hard to find a good one ; taking the step to recognise you should see someone isn’t the hard part. Picking up your phone and call one isn’t the hard part. Fiding one that works for you is the damnedest hardest part of it, period.

        Don’t drop it. Keep trying.

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          Best therapist I ever had, had barely an office, that he split with his wife who did a separate type of counseling. He didnt advertise that I could tell, no preamble, no official stuff, no formal psychological analysis. Felt like I was just talking to a supportive buddy. Sometimes he would just tell me stories about when he was younger and had substance abuse issues and I would barely talk.

          Wish I could say there was a trick to finding a good therapist. I picked the closest one to my house, which was a very tiny run down multi office building hidden behind a round-about and giant trees.

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          Yup, good therapists exist, but like most professions, finding one that works for you can be difficult.

          Having a bad therapy experience doesn’t mean you aren’t fixable, it means the therapist sucks.

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          So true. Unfortunately both men rarely talk about feelings and were more or less forced by circumstance to seek help for mental health.

          They already hated the idea and now hate it more. When they have some sort of future relapse they’ll be be even more closed off to seeking help.

          Sucks.

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          Q: What do you call a doctor that cheated and manipulated their way through medical school and their residency?

          A: Doctor.

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          Some doctors chose the profession to get laid and make money. Not the greatest motivators for being a good human in some cases.

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      The older ones tend to still think that way.

      One of my previous psychiatrists got kicked out being the head of his department because he was using his position to lobby heavily to keep Asexuality in the the DSM.

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        Mine was 30 maximum, I was 20. It’s not about age, it’s about always getting what you wanted when you wanted it; then you don’t understand how it might not work like that for others.

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      Even if it’s not fake, in every other instance, if you have a bad dentist who says shit that makes you uncomfortable, you get a new dentist, happens every day, bad dentists get bad reviews and open shitty practices in bad neighborhoods and people expect the care to be substandard. Rarely do you even hear stories about that kind of thing because people have normalized dental care.

      The fact that this shit is controversial shows just how far we have to go before people start taking their fucking minds seriously. You know, only the most important part of your physical, living experience.

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      I may have once believed this would never happen but after a therapist once told me I was wrong for outting a pedophile I can’t imagine this being that far fetched.

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    Jesus Christ, that tops the worst thing I’ve ever heard a therapist say.

    I heard a tale about a therapist in Iowa who after talking about issues with anxiety recommended eating brains shaped foods like, broccoli and walnuts.

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      As someone who’s had a uh… not great experience with mental health care, this story is totally believable to me.

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        My wife should be in therapy but has entirely sworn it off after her last therapist would gossip to clients about other clients, especially clients who are related or know eachother well, and tried to play matchmaker, giving her contact info and sharing some of her struggles with another client of his who happened to be finishing up a prison sentence at that time. He runs his own practice because he was fired from the last one for HIPPA violations, and instead of being thankful his old boss didn’t entirely ruin him he just is resentful that he got fired for engaging in what should be career-ending activities

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          if you want to, you can DM me for some help with reporting this person to your state or province licensing board. not just for your family but for everyone that bastard is seeing. this is a disgusting abuse of the profession, but it’s VERY easy to take action against

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              they wouldn’t see jail time but they could be sued in a civil suit. they’d certainly never practice again once they get some eyes on them. they seem to have a pattern of fucking up

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                I think they should see jail time. The current law would probably not support jail time, but I do think that should be on the table for breaching a confidentiality agreement like this.

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      This is sadly all too believable but I’m happy for you that all of your experiences with therapy have been so positive that this seems impossible

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    Either:

    1. boink therapist
    2. complain to professional body that therapist tried to seduce you
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    I had a therapist that eventually deemed me too dangerous to myself to be in their care, so she upgraded me to super-therapy where I have to go like 9 hours a week and work with a group and like 5 therapists but I still don’t get much value out of it :c so yeah, therapy definitely isn’t for everyone

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      sounds like you got bumped up to a higher level of care. are you in IOP? that’s quite standard, especially for someone struggling severely but doesn’t want to go to inpatient

      some therapists freak out a bit over suicide risk a bit much, but there’s a good chance that their recommendation was justified and the right call. I recommend talking about your frustration with your original therapist if possible, or just your favorite of the 5 if not.

      I hope you’re getting a lot of good skills

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          You need to find your fit just like in love or friendship because it’s a highly personal relationship that you’re trying to develop with that person.

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              Yeah it’s one of the most challenging parts. The process of getting therapy is not set up to be easy for the kind of people who need it. Availability is the most limiting factor these days, so if you don’t get a good match, you could be stuck waiting months for another try. I got pretty lucky on my second try a few years ago, but my wife just gave up trying to find someone. It’s hard to blame her.