What does this even really accomplish? Obama famously pushed for greater relations with Cuba, and Trump reversed all of that progress. Trump is very likely to reverse this as well.
If it was actually something important, and it was something Biden could do kinda whenever, what is the point of doing it now? If Biden had at least done it when he took office, we could have had a few years fostering relations again. Now, we’ll be lucky to have a month.
As much as I celebrate the removal of Cuba from this terror list, and the possible positive implications it will have for the people of Cuba, I am very well aware that that isn’t what any of these actions are about by either Biden, or what trump will do afterward.
Trump is very likely to reverse this as well.
And Trump will spend political capital to do it alienating groups that supported the removal of Cuba from the list.
If it was actually something important, and it was something Biden could do kinda whenever, what is the point of doing it now?
Because it forces trump to put it back on, and if trump does it immediately, the two events (Biden removing, Trump adding) will be highlighted in the minds of the electorate (who care about this subject).
If Biden had at least done it when he took office, we could have had a few years fostering relations again.
And Biden would have had to spend political capital to do it, alienating those that support restrictions on Cuba like the large voting block in Florida.
Now, we’ll be lucky to have a month.
Which is also part of the point of the timing I think. The GOP and trump will be forced to carry the title of putting the restriction on Cuba again.
This is all just political gamesmanship, not active policy agenda items. I still support the removal either way (and for any amount of time).
I mean I’ll bet a billion dollars that those groups are alienated by Trump just by being Trump and that therefore had no political capital is going to be wasted here.
I mean I’ll bet a billion dollars that those groups are alienated by Trump just by being Trump and that therefore had no political capital is going to be wasted here.
“On the issue of the U.S. embargo against Cuba, 55% of Cuban Americans in South Florida support its continuation, although they also show relatively high support for some engagement policies such as the selling of food (61% support) and medicine (69% support) to the island. Support for the continuation of the embargo drops to 43% among Cuban Americans not born on the island.” source
So if trump re-enables full bans he risks pissing off from 45% to 69% of Cuban Americans likely voters. See? This is politics. Biden gets to make one policy change with zero consequences to himself a few days before he leaves office that will torpedo trump support in a key group if trump puts it back to the way it was just a couple of weeks prior.
Wanting food and Medicine sent to the citizens of a state you consider controlled by a totalitarian government isn’t the same thing as wanting said totalitarian government removed from the list of Terror sponsors. So you’re making it quite a logical leap there.
I’d also point out that Trump’s approval numbers and voting numbers from the Cuban community is extremely high. Something like 68% last I checked. This is after he reversed Cuban decisions during his last Administration.
The numbers are the placeholders in my statement for the concepts. Each of the concepts you’re calling out has a number attached to it in my citation. If you refuse to acknowledge the numbers, simply use them as placeholders for the concepts as they are 1:1.
I’m not refusing to acknowledge the numbers I just think the numbers relate to something that has nothing to do with the topic. Hence why I think you’re making a logical leap. You’ve taken numbers that relate to one fact and assumed they must also relate to another with nothing actual to connect them.
What does this even really accomplish? Obama famously pushed for greater relations with Cuba, and Trump reversed all of that progress. Trump is very likely to reverse this as well.
If it was actually something important, and it was something Biden could do kinda whenever, what is the point of doing it now? If Biden had at least done it when he took office, we could have had a few years fostering relations again. Now, we’ll be lucky to have a month.
As much as I celebrate the removal of Cuba from this terror list, and the possible positive implications it will have for the people of Cuba, I am very well aware that that isn’t what any of these actions are about by either Biden, or what trump will do afterward.
And Trump will spend political capital to do it alienating groups that supported the removal of Cuba from the list.
Because it forces trump to put it back on, and if trump does it immediately, the two events (Biden removing, Trump adding) will be highlighted in the minds of the electorate (who care about this subject).
And Biden would have had to spend political capital to do it, alienating those that support restrictions on Cuba like the large voting block in Florida.
Which is also part of the point of the timing I think. The GOP and trump will be forced to carry the title of putting the restriction on Cuba again.
This is all just political gamesmanship, not active policy agenda items. I still support the removal either way (and for any amount of time).
I mean I’ll bet a billion dollars that those groups are alienated by Trump just by being Trump and that therefore had no political capital is going to be wasted here.
“On the issue of the U.S. embargo against Cuba, 55% of Cuban Americans in South Florida support its continuation, although they also show relatively high support for some engagement policies such as the selling of food (61% support) and medicine (69% support) to the island. Support for the continuation of the embargo drops to 43% among Cuban Americans not born on the island.” source
So if trump re-enables full bans he risks pissing off from 45% to 69% of Cuban Americans likely voters. See? This is politics. Biden gets to make one policy change with zero consequences to himself a few days before he leaves office that will torpedo trump support in a key group if trump puts it back to the way it was just a couple of weeks prior.
Wanting food and Medicine sent to the citizens of a state you consider controlled by a totalitarian government isn’t the same thing as wanting said totalitarian government removed from the list of Terror sponsors. So you’re making it quite a logical leap there.
I’d also point out that Trump’s approval numbers and voting numbers from the Cuban community is extremely high. Something like 68% last I checked. This is after he reversed Cuban decisions during his last Administration.
Read my post again, please. I said: “from 45% to 69%”. I accounted for the 69% at the maximum, while recognizing the lower percentage.
My issue wasn’t the numbers, it was the concept.
The numbers are the placeholders in my statement for the concepts. Each of the concepts you’re calling out has a number attached to it in my citation. If you refuse to acknowledge the numbers, simply use them as placeholders for the concepts as they are 1:1.
I’m not refusing to acknowledge the numbers I just think the numbers relate to something that has nothing to do with the topic. Hence why I think you’re making a logical leap. You’ve taken numbers that relate to one fact and assumed they must also relate to another with nothing actual to connect them.
Boy, I just love the games politics plays on people for political gain.