Twenty-nine percent of non-voters who supported Biden in 2020 said U.S. support for the genocide was the top reason they sat the 2024 election, according to a survey by YouGov.

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      2 days ago

      All Harris needed to do was change her position on that to win. How on earth was she so dumb?

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        How on earth do you think an american president will position themselves on Israël ever? There is zero chance one will go against, zero. And who ever believe Trump would not support Israël is delusional.

        It really makes me wonder why on earth a democrat would ever not vote democrat in your current system. Sure she is far from ideal. But trump???

        Its like the french not voting macron and letting lepen passs !

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          I know this has been debated in detail, and you probably understand this but dont agree with it, but to explain one more time, many people see a difference between personally acting in support of an immoral action in order to to game toward a better outcome as less desirable than not acting at all.

          As an example: if the choice is for them to participate in murdering 10 people or murdering 100-- with no other option given, the only option for them is to sit down and not make either choice, and let the chips fall where they may. The difference for them lies in part to them having to actively participate in these murders. For christians, “thou shalt not kill” doesn’t have caveats. Many other religions and beliefs also have something similar.

          You probably disagree and would say refusing to kill the 10 puts the blood of 90 on their hands, but their personal morality doesnt allow them to make that choice.
          I do get your point.

          Hate them, call them stupid…dirty hippies… whatever. But there are enough of them on the dem side that the dems cant afford to ignore their votes.

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      Nor is biden, nor is kamala, how are you so simple minded? If trump hating netenyahu is enough to stop the war or give a moment of ceasefire for aid then he already did more then biden ever did. Also the bill drafted for ceasefire under trump does allow Palestinans to return to all of Gaza which is something the Israeli government does not want as they are colonizing demons who in 75 years have absolutely destroyed the pretty solid 3000 year old reputation of the jews.