- cross-posted to:
- meta@lemm.ee
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- meta@lemm.ee
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37235684
Obviously reporting transphobic comments to a transphobic mod isn’t going to result in any action, so I’m wondering if the admins are going to do anything about it?
(if someone needs an image description, please ask)
Na you’re just playing classic tucker carlson. ‘just asking questions’ nonsense. You see the OP literally linked to research that literally answers your questions but you act like no one has provided you with anything and somehow therr is a debate here. But there isnt, there is just a bunch of misinformed and bigots playing off peoples ignorance.
Yes im a trained medical professional. So kindly get bent
I’m not debating anything! I admit I don’t know which is why I was asking for information! I see that OP links to research in the screenshot, but I can’t see any links for me to click in this crosspost OR the original post! I said my opinion and welcomed facts to prove me wrong, and at no point have I tried to argue I’m correct! You’re right, there is no debate, I’m not trying to debate! But I figured someone, maybe even OP, would at least link the studies from the screenshot. Especially since I don’t know what community the discussion originally happened in!
Maybe the wording of my post drew some ire, and for that I apologize. But I sincerely think that having a misinformed opinion is not cause to shame someone, especially if they’re literally asking for information! If you think that all I’m going to do when I see the studies is call them bullshit, that’s fine, I get it. The internet is hostile and there are bad actors everywhere trying to get people to waste time and energy. But are you seriously going to just shit on me for being ignorant and just tell me “uhhh stop it dumbass” without even trying to educate? I get that I have internalized transphobia… kinda comes with the territory of being a rural trans woman. I just thought this would be the fucking space to ask.
That’s nice. Move long Mr. Carlson. ‘welcomed facts to prove me wrong’ says it all. You have enough information from the original image and other comments in this thread to find all of the information you need. Its not our responsibility to educate every asshole carlson running around.
You’ve at this point:
Now its your turn to take personality responsibility for educating yourself. Like probably every person here has done on their own. If you don’t know how to do this at this point in your life, I suggest community adult education classes, they’re generally free and that person is being paid for their time to teach you basic life skills.
I will offer to clarify any medical terminology you run into or specific questions about specific sources you find that are from peer reviewed medical journals.
Again, some people converse to learn. I feel like that’s partially the point of social media - mingling perspectives allowing for growth. You are shitting on me much more than you’re informing me. Thankfully, someone did link me a few studies. Which I read. That’s all I was ever asking for. You’re conveniently ignoring my interaction with flamingembers. Sometimes people do just want to be proven wrong, and aren’t just baiting. The purpose of my original comment was just to invite facts to disprove my opinion. Which I thankfully recieved.
I asked for direct links because I thought this would be a good place to ask. That ended up being true, but not before having to wade through a swamp of snark first.
My point being, it took you just as much effort, maybe more, to shit on me for asking a question the wrong way and having the wrong opinion as it would to just link a fucking study. I’m just supposed to see you call me a bad actor, a bigot, and compare me to Tucker fucking Carlson when I was legitimately just asking for studies (admittedly in a way that made it seem like I wanted a debate, and not a discussion) and say, “huh, I guess they’re right?”
Sports aren’t important to me. Trans people in sports is not something I’ve researched extensively. I stated my opinion based on my perception of the few trans athletes that I’ve seen in top level play, and I was wrong. The one study I’ve been linked did show that in all ways measured except grip strength, trans women are at a disadvantage, and trans men are at a complete disadvantage. I will add too, that I didn’t realize how inseperable the issue is from the rest of life for trans people. I’ve been guided toward Erin in the Morning, who had an excellent article pointing out how trans sports bans are used to justify other erosions of trans rights.
Just as you’re not getting paid to link studies, I’m not getting fucking paid to sit around researching the aspects of being trans that (as I thought at the time) have fuck all to do with how I live my life. I don’t have time to sit and research all day, which is why I thought, “Hey, I’ll ask about this in the thread discussing it, surely someone will have some information for me.” Someone did, thankfully, but the only information you had for me is that you think I’m a fucking asshole.
I understand being averse to the way I phrased my original post, I showed my ignorance and realize what was ignorant about what I said now that I’ve read more sources that disprove what I said. But you can’t just assume ignorance means unwilling to learn. Wanting to learn more is why I posted in the first place. And all you really did was inform me that I was ignorant, and shame me for being ignorant. Hmm, if only there was some way to give ignorant people information. Of course, most of the time that does lead to being baited by bad actors, but you decided I was a bad actor before even presenting any relevant information and seeing what my response was. My opinion and question was related to skeletal structure of post-puberty trans people, and all you said was “hormones change things pretty fast.” Which that, I am aware of, but I’m also aware that hormones sometimes cannot undo what puberty does in the first place. And that’s another reason why I posed the question.
Respectfully, I don’t want you to clarify any terminology for me. What happened to you not thinking it’s worth it to take the time to educate? I welcome anyone that would like to tell me more, but I think you’d much rather call me an idiot for not knowing in the first place.