Faced with relentless Republican attacks on reproductive freedom including efforts to give embryos and fetuses legal rights from the moment of conception, Democratic lawmakers in two states have recently introduced legislation that would ban men from ejaculating for purposes other than making babies, with some exceptions.
It’s posturing that allows their opponents to run ads about how they waste time with stupid fucking fake bills instead of actually trying to get shit done.
I know it might be hard to see now, but an eye for an eye is how we got here in the first place.
These joke bills do nothing of any value for anyone that understands that the bills aren’t meant to be taken literally seriously, and only make idiots mad at “the demonrats” for “bein dumbasses while our country burns”.
It would also be another opportunity for them to portray the left as hating men
“It’s posturing”
If you believe this, then you believe that denying women reproductive Rights and bodily autonomy is posturing.
which it is not. it is real legislation that is harming and killing women.
If women are being denied bodily autonomy, then men should be denied bodily autonomy.
“stupid fucking fake bills”
these are “fake bills”, women in the states do not have bodily autonomy or reproductive rights anymore because of real laws.
those same laws should apply to men if they are going to apply to women.
“an eye for an eye is how we got here in the first place.”
incorrect.
how we got here now Is that Democrats didn’t fight back against authoritarianism hard enough.
Democrats provided more rights for people, by inclusive legislation.
Republicans have taken away the rights of specific people by exclusive legislation.
and if their legislation is going to exclude women from bodily autonomy, then men should be excluded from bodily autonomy as well.
these are real laws in your country, women do not have rights to healthcare or bodily autonomy anymore because of real laws.
and if women do not have those rights, then men should not either.
I believe the bill they introduced isn’t going to go anywhere, and I believe the people introducing the bill believe that also.
Talk about should/could all you want, what will happen is that these bills are laughed at and thrown away with no additional thought from the intended targets.
Anyways I don’t really care to argue about obvious performative politics and optics and PR moves.
I am against the currently passed bills restricting women’s right to choose. There is nothing I can do about it.
'I believe, i believe, ibelieve"
That’s fine, but vision boards are for directing your focus, your beliefs aren’t going to change anything by themselves.
That’s what action is for.
in this case, gender equality legislation.
“obvious performative politics and optics and PR moves.”
removing reproductive Rights, healthcare and bodily autonomy from an entire gender is not a stunt, it happened and is continuing to happen.
in the US, women do not have bodily autonomy and are denied basic healthcare.
women are literally dying because of conservative legislation that you are either unaware of or don’t “believe” in.
men should be denied the same privileges.
Friend, I think we agree mostly. I’m not in a mindspace to argue with you on the places where we disagree. Thank you for your passion and your time in presenting your positions, and also consider asking people for clarification on their positions when it would appear that some is needed, as I believe we may have been talking over each other instead of properly communicating.
I don’t think so.
You’re arguing about performance politics, well, I’m addressing direct practically effects of real-life legislation.
we’re close, but as long as you think that the civil rights that have been taken away from American women are some kind of PR stunt, The legislation that has been killing women, we are not on the same page.
I’m done. Thank you again for your time.
you’re welcome, have a good one.