This post is for posterity sake. Since the initial publishing of this post, loops app has updated. Idk if the source code would compile into the loops by pixelfed app release on the loops website. If it does thatās awesome and more people can contribute and integrate it into the rest of the fediverse.
TL;DR: Loops is doomed because Daniel Supernault doesnāt actually want to develop it or release the source code properly. Iāll try to provide evidence where I can, but a lot of evidence was destroyed via bans from the Discord, so I canāt retrieve my messages, and All I have are files I saved on my hard drive and mastodon links.
How I Got Involved I got into Loops because of the TikTok ban scare and wanted to help develop a non-corporate fediverse alternative to TikTok and YouTube Shorts. I signed up, made two accounts (wasnāt sure why I couldnāt log in), and got approved after two days. Once I had an account, I downloaded the Android APK and joined the Discord. I introduced myself as someone who wanted to help and mentioned that I had tried (and failed) to make a Fediverse app before. I was interested in seeing where Loops would go. For about 12 days, I made videos for Loops, making sure there was consistent content so the platform didnāt go 10 minutes without something new. I also helped in Discord, answering questions about account activations and discussing how Loops could become a major part of the Fediverse (which, as of 2/16/2025, it still isnāt). I thought if Loops could launch before the next TikTok scare, it had a real shot.
I Start Asking Questions After 12 days of making content and being active in Discord, I was getting bored. I wanted to figure out why there werenāt any real developments. I knew Daniel had promised on Discord that Loops would be open-source āby the weekendā (this was 12 days ago). To me, that meant publishing the source code. So, I made a video calling him out (archived here: dalek.zone/w/jUUYe11xDvjz15ZRAxQuy7) and posted it on Discord. A few minutes later, Daniel deleted the link and removed the video from Loops. His only response was, āMisinformation is not appreciatedāāwith no further context. To me, this reaction was suspicious. He didnāt explain why he hadnāt released the source code. He didnāt ignore it either, which I interpreted him as being guarded.
Getting Banned from the Discord After Danielās reaction, I started wondering if Loops was a waste of my time. Was anything actually happening? I tried decompiling the Android APK to see what was inside but couldnāt get it to recompile. I thought about forking the Loops GitHub with the decompiled source and posting it in GitHub as a forkābut I didnāt even need to. Instead, I asked why Loops wasnāt just a PeerTube instance, since PeerTube already worked on short formed video content with a tik Tok like interface. I even made another video about it: dalek.zone/w/fVW4GbW79bBpiyLrDGJBBa. The last thing that happened before my ban was me asking if anyone was actually doing work on Loops. Instead of answering, they flipped the question back on me. I replied, āYes, I am decompiling the source code so we can do work.ā after, Discord glitched, the Loops server disappeared, and I was locked out. My Loops account was also deleted. This made it clear: Daniel didnāt want me questioning loops or suggesting that PeerTube could do the job better.
Calling Him Out on Mastodon After my ban on discord, I did more research on Daniel and kept calling him out on Mastodon as a warning to others. Eventually, he did publish a āsource codeā for Loops. Just to spite him, I thanked Michael Downey (mastodon.social/@Cattail/113932221184535082) for pushing him to release it by asking him a question. But two hours later, I pointed out that the APK and the published source code didnāt match: (mastodon.social/@Cattail/113932308245134257).
Conclusion Iām glad I did what I did because it saved me from wasting more time on Loops. Instead, I built a bot that announces when Fediverse streamers go live on Mastodon, which actually helps the community. Daniel is asking for money that would be better spent on PeerTube development or maintaining existing Fediverse instances. Daniel is deceiving people, pretending Loops is making progress when itās really just a rehash of Pixelfed. His Kickstarter has no deadline and only vague updates. If you still want to support him, thatās on you. Iāve seen enough.
Links & Receipts Official āsource codeā: github.com/joinloops/loops-app Loops development mention from 2020: mastodon.social/@pixelfed/104618452882003745?utm_source=perplexity Kickstarter: kickstarter.com/projects/pixelfed/pixelfed-foundation-2024-real-ethical-social-networks/comments
Links & Receipts Official āsource codeā: GitHub Loops development mention from 2020: Mastodon Kickstarter: Pixelfed Foundation 2024
oh so youāre just a troll
Nope, but you can call me whatever you want. Ill still do my own thing