Attorney, journalist, and Elon Musk biographer Seth Abramson eviscerated both Elon Musk and his ā€œfanboysā€ who have attempted to use the billionaireā€™s IQ as an indication of his intellectual prowess in a series of messages shared on X Thursday evening and into Friday.

  • LorindĆ³l@sopuli.xyz
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    We had to take a mandatory IQ test at the beginning of military service, my score was in the highest percentile and because of this I ended up in officer training. It wasnā€™t the Mensa type test, they measured our language, math and pattern recognition skills with a vast battery of questions with a time limit.

    Many friends of mine got average IQ scores in the army test but they are the ones who are really smart and extremely succesful.

    In university I got a chance to take the Mensa type test and got ~140 points. I just laughed it off since at the same time I was struggling to pass my courses, while my friends who got average scores passed them with ease.

    I do not consider myself really ā€œsmartā€ in any way, I just have a very good memory and Iā€™m pretty adept at solving problems. Otherwise Iā€™m just about as average a guy can be.

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      1 day ago

      Uh-huh and everyone stood up to clap buddy?

      You know, its a thing to jerk off to yer fantasies but your fantasy is a high IQ score? Really? Was Ariana Grande not in danger in your dreams or something?

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            19 hours ago

            Yes! If you know how to look up edit history, please do so! There has been no editing on my part.

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              17 hours ago

              Pffffffffffffffff šŸ˜‚

              You know its so sad that this might even work out for you, after all Trump supporters too refused to read the jan files

              But you have yet to answer my one question! Does your miniscular penis feel larger for lying on the internet?

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                  17 hours ago

                  I have never claimed a 140 IQ, nor have I unjustly claimed to of a profession I am not! I am not the one trying to compensate for something here?

                  But can you answer that one question for me? Pretty please?

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                    16 hours ago

                    I have not claimed any profession.

                    In my original comment I did state that I got into officer training, perhaps you assumed that as a career officer? I admit that the conscript army system is so profoundly different that I could have been more precise.

                    I assumed that the later mention of university studies would have made it clear that I was not a career soldier.

                    It is also true that I cannot verify my claim about the IQ test. Like I said earlier, it was a part of another studentā€™s thesis. We got to hear the results after the test, then the gathered data was processed anonymously. If I recall correctly, the study was more about the qualities of the test itself, the qualities of the participants were not important. I think everyone got a free movie ticket for taking the test and I spent mine on ā€œKill Billā€ 1 or 2.

                    But tell me, why would I want to lie about this? To what gain?

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        No.

        The whole point - which you seem to have missed - was that getting a ā€œgoodā€ score in some test can mean very little or nothing in real life.

        It just means that youā€™re good at that sort of mental exercise.

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          No that meant that you could afford a 2-3-4 week long preparatory course!or were pursuing one of a few very specific fields of mathematics! And you putting good in quotation marks strongly insinuates that you have no idea what a 140 on an IQ test means, which makes it absolutely impossible for you to have received it since it would have been explained to you! And ppl do tend to remember the equivalent of winning the olimpics, you know?

          But I am sure that you received military training 40-50 years ago! Say, where and when did you receive it under whose preliminary command?

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            Iā€™ve never taken any preparatory courses for anything and Iā€™m not really good with mathematics, so no and no again.

            And why I put the quotation marks around good is a reflection of my native language, we do that when one wishes to express their personal disbelief or doubt. I am well aware that the ~140 score is considered a good one by the designers of the test.

            I served in the late 90ā€™s and there have been several refresher courses but Iā€™m not at the liberty to discuss any specifics of service matters publicly. If you have done military service you know this.

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              IQ tests went out of fashion mid 80-ties and they were only ever required in the very very top universities! There is no military academy in the world where you would have been asked for one!

              140 is not a good a score! 140 is fucking legendary!!! Which would have been again explained to you if you ever achieved that, which again you would remember since its the equivalent of winning an olympic! But you donā€™t have a singular fucking clue what a 140 means on an IQ testā€¦ How very curiousā€¦

              Ones military service starts at the end of their training, then you will be required to put your oaths down! Your bulshitting couldnā€™t even be chalked up as a semblance of protecting your anonymity! Graduation lists of military establishments are not public and even if they were there are 70-200-ish cadets in every year!

              And soldiers can and do talk constantly about their service (ps thats how you can spot valor stealers on the internet, ppl like you :))! They are not allowed to talk of restricted info and missions! If you were a career secret sevice agent, you would not talk about being a soldier on the internet!

              Another thing that makes absolutely no sense are the refresher courses and is a quite stupid attempt of weaseling out of the question! Most manuals were written in the 60-ties and have yet to be updated! And if you received new equipment you would not be sent back to uni! You would be taken to a field to practice with it!

              Now tell me! Does your minsicular penis feel larger for lying and pretending to be a big man on the internet?

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                21 hours ago

                You are quick to leap to wild conclusions.

                The army test is taken by every conscript at the beginning of the mandatory military service. It is an aptitude/IQ test which had a lot of similiarities with the Mensa type test I took later. You need a high enough score to get into NCO or officer training. The ones who graduate from the officer training may apply to the military academy after their mandatory service is over.

                And like I clearly wrote in my original comment, the test I took later was a Mensa type test, using similar questions. It was a part of cognitive science or psychology departmentā€™s student thesis, not a Mensa test. I majored in educational psychology, so I do have some understanding of what IQ tests are. I got a high score in one and it resulted in absolutely nothing in my life.

                I have not claimed to be a career officer. I am a reserve officer, I did not wish to apply to the military academy, therefore the refresher courses. And even if my soldierā€™s oath would not prevent me from discussing service matters with aggressive strangers on the Internet, my common sense would.

                You are indeed a peculiar one. On my first comment I tried to validate the very point you made of IQ tests being poor indicators of true intelligence by sharing a personal experience (even though I know the fallacy of empiric experiences) on the matter. Yet you vehemently attacked my statement and accuse me of lying.

                Lastly, your opinion of me is irrelevant, only the truth is relevant. One would gain nothing from lying to strangers. Perhaps practising some restraint on your part would result in more fruitful and pleasant dialogue in the future?

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                  You just canā€™t stop lying, can you?

                  An ASVAB is not an IQ test, which you would know if you took one; which you would especially know if you just happened to specialize an unnamed (very very convincing) next to IQ tests!

                  So you didnā€™t take it get into uni, huh?

                  If you were ever a soldier, or even if you ever a conscript you would not refer to yourself as an officer! Your contract would state that you may refer to yourself as one without rank, as you are part of the fucking reserve!

                  Aaand you found the edit button! You know your edit history is publicly available?

                  But you still refused to answer me! Does your miniscular penis for lying on the internet!

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                    19 hours ago

                    Youā€™re getting quite incoherent.

                    I have edited nothing, so it matters not if the edit history is publicly available or not. If this is your attempt to discredit me, itā€™s pretty pathetic. You just didnā€™t bother to read what I had written, right?

                    Our universities do not use IQ tests to select students nor have I claimed that they did. This is your own mental fabrication.

                    Depending of the situation, in my country we DO refer to ourselves as ā€œofficersā€ or ā€œreserve officersā€. Spesific rank is used in the garrisons and drills or when an individual is interviewed by the media. In the refresher drills the reserve officer ranks are equal to career officer ranks.

                    I understand that this all may be new and confusing information to you, but some things can be done very differently in different countries.