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- leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world
Summary
A new poll found that 71% of Trump voters oppose Medicaid cuts, while 82% of all voters reject them. Additionally, 60% of Trump voters said cutting food and nutrition programs is unacceptable.
Medicaid has become a key issue as House Republicans push for up to $2 trillion in budget cuts to advance Trump’s legislative agenda.
Their resolution directs the House Energy and Commerce Committee to find at least $880 billion in cuts.
This raises concerns that Medicaid, which covers 70 million people—mostly low-income and children—could be targeted despite GOP leaders downplaying benefit reductions.
There’s a significant number of people who voted for both Trump and AOC.
One of the things a lot of leftists are really struggling to grasp is that a very sizeable proportion of Trump voters view Dick Cheney as the enemy. Not because he endorsed Kamala, but because he’s part of “The establishment.”
These people (and I’m talking about a segment of recent Trump voters here, not all them; there are plenty that are just bigots and fascists) don’t really vote in a way that actually aligns with their political views. They vote against business as usual, and that means they vote for whoever promises to burn it all down. If a firebrand leftist can inspire them, they’ll vote for that firebrand leftist.
That’s a person who can be reached. That’s a person who just needs help developing greater political literacy. The bigots and the fascists can get fucked, don’t waste your time with them.
I just don’t know even how to address these type of people that think Hillary or Biden or Kamala is “the establishment” and Bronzo the Clown is not.
As in…what are they using as the definition of this term? If anything, Bronzo the Clown is someone, for his entire life, is someone that has desperately pined to be part of every establishment - the Manhattan elite, the Hollywood elite, even hobnobbing with Russian oligarchs to be accepted by the very, very rich and on and on.
Now that he had a term, I cannot think of anything more establishment than that. These people must be twisting the term “the establishment” in the same way they do for the term “elite” [1]. It doesn’t seem to align with the actual meaning of that term in the way most people use it, nor does it seem to be consistent. Meaning, as long as someone talks like a total dumbass and talks about grabbing women by the pussy because they “let him” because he’s rich and famous, he’s not establishment? I cannot think of anything more establishment than an entitled rich old piece of shit sexually assaulting women and then bragging about it.
Or maybe it’s the old Subgenius saying: “Act like a dumbshit and they’ll treat you like an equal.” Bronzo definitely checks that box - acting like a dumbshit.
[1] Elite used to mean the obscenely wealthy and mostly is about that set of people, in typical usage. In the usage the cons have worked so hard to make common “elites” seem to be about intellectuals, experts, and the educated, even if they have no money and almost no influence - like your professor next door, or the guy you work with that happens to accept the science on viruses, vaccines, global warming and evolution…those people are “elites”, but an Elon, because he trolls the libs (but is nearing trillionaire status), is not.
You’re over thinking it. You’re right, but you’re missing what’s really happening because it’s so much simpler than that. They think he’s not part of the establishment for one very simple reason; he refuses to respect the establishment.
He doesn’t kowtow to norms. He doesn’t talk the way politicians are expected to talk. He doesn’t act the way politicians are expected to act. And he doesn’t respect the established institutions (which, in Trump’s case, means he’s actively trying to destroy those institutions in order to centralize power).
This explains why they don’t care that he’s trampling over the rule of law, bypassing Congress, burning down Federal institutions. They see those as necessary things, because decades of political inaction have left them poorer and the rich richer.
And, crucially, this is an opinion that progressives share. How many people on left were screaming at Biden to ditch the filibuster and pack the supreme court? Both actions that would have disrespected establishment norms for the sake of real change? How many people have been screaming at the Dems to stop reaching across the aisle, despite that being the established way of doing business in government?
These people want radical change, not business as normal. It’s no accident that Bernie was on a hot streak in 2016 just like Trump was. Both were outsider candidates who promised to radically shake up their parties visions for the future. The GOP saw where the wind was blowing and hitched their wagon, the Dems refused. So the GOP won.
They’re willing to embrace Trump’s terrible ideas because they assume that they’re not actually terrible ideas (and because they heavily apply the Shirley Exception. The guy is rich, they’re not, therefore they figure he must be pretty smart. And hey, it’s not their job to figure out the right answers, that’s the job of the people they elect. But the important thing is that those be anything other than business as usual, because the one thing they can say for sure is that business as usual has fucked them good and hard. And on that particular point they’re absolutely right.