You’re missing the point. Framework has a very finite amount of resources. They could have dedicated them to making a printer or a phone or a tablet or any number of other products people have actually asked them for. Instead they dedicated it to designing a computer that anyone else could have made and sold and isn’t repairable or upgradeable.
People keep shouting printer like they can just do it like that. Printers are a whole different beast, likely needing a whole seperate team with a different type of engineers. A desktop, given the existing team, is perfectly reasonable.
Calling a product DOA because of soldered ram is just a braindead take. Also, just because the ram isn’t upgradable the whole desktop isn’t upgradable or repairable? Are you hearing yourself? Get a grip.
@Ulrich The repairable space is a tricky one. They are a company that makes things designed to be taken apart. They have to support it. Supporting every kid that screws up his first CPU install is a no go. GPUs are a nightmare right now with the things literally going on fire. Ok, the ram could be user replaceable but most PC users only upgrade ram when they upgrade the mobo anyway. This is niche but I think it’s the only way they could think of doing it without a million support calls.
the CPU has such a high memory bandwidth, that it wasn’t possible to used socketed ram. Signal integrity was not holding up.
They tried to get it to run with socketed ram
Then don’t sell it.
then don’t buy it. if it doesn’t sell, they won’t release a second one
You’re missing the point. Framework has a very finite amount of resources. They could have dedicated them to making a printer or a phone or a tablet or any number of other products people have actually asked them for. Instead they dedicated it to designing a computer that anyone else could have made and sold and isn’t repairable or upgradeable.
People keep shouting printer like they can just do it like that. Printers are a whole different beast, likely needing a whole seperate team with a different type of engineers. A desktop, given the existing team, is perfectly reasonable.
Calling a product DOA because of soldered ram is just a braindead take. Also, just because the ram isn’t upgradable the whole desktop isn’t upgradable or repairable? Are you hearing yourself? Get a grip.
No one thinks they can “just do it” but they can do it, just like they did for laptops.
A braindead take is a company that’s founded on repairable and upgradeable computers selling a computer that’s none of those things.
Its not just the RAM, the CPU and GPU are also not repairable or upgradeable, and this is in a class of products where everything else is…
@Ulrich The repairable space is a tricky one. They are a company that makes things designed to be taken apart. They have to support it. Supporting every kid that screws up his first CPU install is a no go. GPUs are a nightmare right now with the things literally going on fire. Ok, the ram could be user replaceable but most PC users only upgrade ram when they upgrade the mobo anyway. This is niche but I think it’s the only way they could think of doing it without a million support calls.
That’s non-sense. There’s an entire industry that’s existed for decades for repairable and upgradable computers.