• rekabis@programming.dev
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    21 hours ago

    In the context of Capitalism, sure, Japan is in trouble.

    But then again, any system that demands infinite growth within a finite system has a biological parallel… in cancer. Yes, capitalism is economic cancer.

    Japan has a bright future in front of it, if it can successfully pioneer an effective degrowth system that prioritizes the lives of people over Paraiste-Class profits.

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      15 hours ago

      Japans GDP has been almost flat since the mid 90s, they are not following the west’s “”“infinite”“” growth. Not that I’m saying capitalism isn’t part of the problem, it absolutely is, just saying it isn’t the entire story.

    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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      21 hours ago

      Outside of capitalism it is hard to function below replacement level because the young people have to take care of the elderly

      • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        12 hours ago

        Oh no, having to spend time with my family oh nooo /s

        If rent weren’t so damn high and you didn’t have such a squeeze on every moment of your life to make as much money too survive, spending time and supporting each other efficiently maybe wouldn’t be a problem.

        Values are defined by our parents? Is it a caste system? Is extended family more or less efficient? What is the goal: sustainability, B R E E D I N G, vacations, wealth compared to others, power over others, power over ourselves? Etc…

      • MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml
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        20 hours ago

        Young people would have time to take care of the elderly if they weren’t forced to work 60+ hour weeks consistently

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          20 hours ago

          Kind of adjacent when the person is tying infinite economic growth with population “degrowth”

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        No they don’t. They just have to adopt a culture of euthanasia. I don’t say that to be cruel or indifferent. I assume state assisted programs are in a lot of countries’ futures assuming they can stomach it. It’s not something I’m advocating for. I just think the rich are cold enough to push it to try to fix the problem.

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      19 hours ago

      everyone keeps repeating that cancer metaphor, but a plague is much more appropriate….

    • IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world
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      12 hours ago

      Is cancer really cancer if the rest of the body can adapt and grow faster than it? You describe capitalism as a finite system and then heavily imply that we’re near the outer boundary of that system or that all current and future resources are almost depleted.

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        12 hours ago

        The fact that our planet’s resources are finite is a matter of physics. Capitalism may come up with some innovation or another that adds more lifespan to it, the way that digital spaces and the financial industry have done, or it may have another global war that creates room for a new period of traditional growth at the cost of countless lives, but it will inevitably hit an insurmountable wall.