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  • BlueMonday1984@awful.systemsOP
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    translation is IMO one of the use cases where LLMs actually have some use

    How the fuck can a hallucinating bullshit machine have use in translation

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      Machine translation was the original purpose of the transformer architecture, and I guess it was unreasonably good at it compared to the existing state-of-the-art RNNs or whatever they were doing before.

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      To the extent that machine translation was already a bullshit machine I guess. Language learning I sometimes get totally desperate if thereā€™s some grammar construct I canā€™t figure out. A machine translation sometimes helps me know what to look up, or at least move on to the next sentence.

      Anyway this isnā€™t a position I believe strongly in. Itā€™s iffy for sure and none of these companies ever share their quality evaluations or put ā€œprobably nonsenseā€ warnings on the output or give you an option.

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        Translation is definitely mostly pretty good, but I think I still prefer the older style with broken grammar to LLMs making up well formed plausible sentences that are completely wrong.

        Also the results of translating back and forth and on and on are a lot less interesting, though in exchange it is fun to type stupid nonsense into it.

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          Really what I want is both:

          1. A list of words and their individual translations. Parts of speech, pronunciation, and any relevant conjugations, tenses, etc. How the sentence is put together grammatically / vocab wise basically. Google Translate stinks for this you have to type in fragments of a sentence and hope for the best. This is what Iā€™m usually after since my goal is to learn a language, not have it read to me.

          2. A computerā€™s best guess about what a sentence means as a whole. In case Iā€™m terribly confused and it happens to be accurate enough for me to figure it out from there.

          Google Translate focuses on #2 over #1. e.g. it doesnā€™t make a very good dictionary / grammar reference.

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      Translation is a good fit because generally the input is ā€œboundedā€ and stays on the path of the original input. Iā€™d much rather trust an ML system that translates a sentence or a paragraph than something that tries to summarize a longer text.