• PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    2 days ago

    There was a significant length of time when they didn’t.

    Both of the white people who were recently accidentally thrown by ICE into detention centers designed for brown people reported (a) that they were horrifying, with nonstop screaming, solitary confinement, shortages of fundamental human things like clothing and towels, that kind of thing (b) there were people who had been there for a long, long time (the more recent one said “years”). Reportedly, even for white people who clearly don’t “belong there,” there is a shortage of judges who might ever give them a hearing which would lead quickly to them being able to get out, and so in they stay.

    Khalil has been disappeared. The fact that people temporarily know where he is after not knowing for a few days (!), and that they found someone who was an “immigrant” and so ICE had some kind of fig-leaf of justification to randomly snatch because Trump told them to, in no way detracts from the horrifying nature of what’s going on. I think “disappeared” is a pretty accurate description even if it’s been temporarily announced where he is.

    I don’t know what to do. This article is one of the first I’ve read in the press that is as alarmed as people should be about what is going on.

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      which white people are you talking about? Why do you report their word specifically?

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        These white people:

        https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/04/world/german-detained-ice-intl-latam/index.html

        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c80y3yx1jdyo

        The point that I’m making, pointing out that they’re white, is that the news is all of a sudden concerned about them, because they’re white, because the news is racist. Brown people have been going through that same horrifying system for years and years now, and because they “belonged there” or something, unlike those pretty white girls who do not, no one gave a shit.

        (I mean, no one in a position to free them cares about the white girls either, but the news is at least acknowledging that it’s something bad that this is happening to them. They talk to family members, emphasize that they didn’t really do anything wrong, that kind of thing. It’s like some kind of confusing terrible mistake that the system is suddenly being weaponized on these innocent people. When brown people are reported to be suffering those same abuses, or much much worse, they’re reported on in a much more abstract way. Like animals that are having trouble surviving in some particular environment, but not like a problem.)

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      Being disappeared means one day someone vanishes. No-one knows where they are, what happened to them, or who is responsible. This is not that.

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        That literally happened and it was the high profile nature that got him found. So many people without the resources and support do lose family members this way.