• octopus_ink@slrpnk.net
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    4 days ago

    First I want to say that I was more terse in parts of my reply than you deserved, I apologize.

    Let me make my main point slightly differently.

    For people who are not members of those groups,these can be used by politicians as wedge issues.

    For many people who are members of those groups, the current administration presents an immediate existential threat.

    So making the decision to not focus on those issues in an attempt to curry favor with people who have already proven difficult to peel off when Kamala also tried to tack right for their votes (forgive my use of another meme below) seems careless with other peoples’ lives, to me.

    And I still say this kind of thinking just further incentivizes D to move further right. “Look, we went right and won!” It’s now very, very clear that winning votes is all that matters to many incumbent Democrats.

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      I don’t want to appeal to any right winger, neoliberal or neoconservative. No where in either of my posts did I advocate such. Those on the left, the real definition of left, are easily fractured into faction’s. It is our nature as independent thinkers.

      My only goal of my posts on this thread is to help people realize that they are being manipulated by these wedge issues devised by consultants to separate/divide us. Not that these aren’t real issues they absolutely are. However they are labeled wedge issues for a reason. Excellent division tactics of manipulation and used in that manor.

      We have to fight the $$$! That’s my point. Those on the real left need to coalesce behind that singular goal. That’s the only way to win freedom and equality for all.

      My dad said to me once, “Pick your battles wisely, figure out whats the most present obstacle to your success, form a strategy that will succeed or you will fail. Sometimes that means playing the long game.”

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        4 days ago

        We have to fight the $$$! That’s my point.

        I agree with this.

        But if we do it to the exclusion of other concerns, we increase the vulnerability of these marginalized groups for an indeterminate period of time.

        Conservatives fight the culture war because they have swallowed propaganda about these groups and now (still, I’d argue) hate them. Members of those groups and their allies fight the culture war because the writing is on the wall for what is going to happen to people in those groups if we don’t.