Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youāll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
Bill Gates is having a normal one.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/26/bill-gates-on-ai-humans-wont-be-needed-for-most-things.html
Angela Collier has a wonderfully grumpy video up, why functioning governments fund scientific research. Choice sneer at around 32:30:
But what do I know? Iām not a medical doctor but neither is this chucklefuck, and people are listening to him. I donāt know. I feel like this is [sighs, laughs] I always get comments that tell me, āyouāre being a little condescending,ā and [scoffs] yeah. I mean, we can check the dictionary definition of ācondescending,ā and I think I would fit into that category. [Vaccine deniers] have failed their children. They are bad parents. One in four unvaccinated kids who get measles will die. They are playing Russian roulette with their childās life. But sure, the problem is Iām being, like, a little condescending.
just remembered why I created an account here:
https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/domu-technology-inc/jobs/hwWsGdU-vibe-coder-ai-engineer
become a vibe coder for a debt collection startup! but only if youāre willing to pull 15+ hour days for 80k a year
strange Ʀons takes on hpmor :o
I like the video, but Iām a little bothered that she misattributes su3su2u1ās critique to Dan Luu, who makes it very clear he did not write it:
These are archived from the now defunct su3su2u1 tumblr. Since there was some controversy over su3su2u1ās identity, Iāll note that I am not su3su2u1 and that hosting this material is neither an endorsement nor a sign of agreement.
all of the subculture YouTubers I watch are colliding with the weirdo cult I know way too much about and I hate it
oh no :(
poor strange she didnāt deserve that :(
Strange is a trooper and her sneer is worth transcribing. From about 22:00:
So letās go! Upon saturating my brain with as much background information as I could, there was really nothing left to do but fucking read this thing, all six hundred thousand words of HPMOR, really the road of enlightenment that they promised it to be. After reading a few chapters, a realization that I found funny was, āOh. Oh, this is definitely fanfiction. Everyone said [laughing and stuttering] everybody that said that this is basically a real novel is lying.ā People lie on the Internet? No fucking way. It is telling that even the most charitable reviews, the most glowing worshipping reviews of this fanfiction call it āunfinished,ā call it āa first draft.ā
A shorter sneer for the back of the hardcover edition of HPMOR at 26:30 or so:
Itās extremely tiring. I was surprised by how soul-sucking it was. It was unpleasant to force myself beyond the first fifty thousand words. It was physically painful to force myself to read beyond the first hundred thousand words of this ā let me remind you ā six-hundred-thousand-word epic, and I will admit that at that point I did succumb to skimming.
Her analysis is familiar. She recognized that Harry is a self-insert, that the out-loud game theory reads like Death Note parody, that chapters are only really related to each other in the sense that they were written sequentially, that HPMOR is more concerned with sounding smart than being smart, that HPMOR is yet another entry in a long line of monarchist apologies explaining why this new Napoleon wonāt fool us again, and finally that itās a bad read. 31:30 or so:
Itās absolutely no fucking fun. Itās just absolutely dry and joyless. It tastes like sand! I mean, maybe itās Yudkowskyās idea of fun; he spent five years writing the thing after all. But it just [struggles for words] reading this thing, it feels like chewing sand.
I canāt be bothered to look up the details (kinda in a fog of sleep deprivation right now to be honest), but I recall HPMOR pissing me off by getting the plot of Death Note wrong. Well, OK, first there was the obnoxious thing of making Death Note into a play that wizards go to see. It was yet another tedious example in Yudās interminable series of using Nerd Cultureā¢ wink-wink-nudge-nudges as a substitute for world-building. Worse than that, it was immersion-breaking: Yud throws the reader out of the story by prompting them to wonder, āWait, is Death Note a manga in the Muggle world and a play in the wizarding one? Did Tsugumi Ohba secretly learn of wizard culture and rip off one of their stories?ā And then Yud tried to put down Death Note and talk up his own story by saying that L did something illogical that L did not actually do in any version of Death Note that Iād seen.
And now I want potato chips.
Sorry Yuds, Death Note is a lot of fun and the best part is the Ć¼bermensch wannabeās hilariously undignified death. I guess it struck a nerve!
The USA plans to migrate SSAās code away from COBOL in months: https://www.wired.com/story/doge-rebuild-social-security-administration-cobol-benefits/
The project is being organized by Elon Musk lieutenant Steve Davis, multiple sources who were not given permission to talk to the media tell WIRED, and aims to migrate all SSA systems off COBOL, one of the first common business-oriented programming languages, and onto a more modern replacement like Java within a scheduled tight timeframe of a few months.
āThis is an environment that is held together with bail wire and duct tape,ā the former senior SSA technologist working in the office of the chief information officer tells WIRED. āThe leaders need to understand that theyāre dealing with a house of cards or Jenga. If they start pulling pieces out, which theyāve already stated theyāre doing, things can break.ā
SSNās pre-DOGE modernization plan from 2017 is 96 pages and includes quotes like:
SSA systems contain over 60 million lines of COBOL code today and millions more lines of Assembler, and other legacy languages.
What could possibly go wrong? Iām sure the DOGE boys fresh out of university are experts in working with large software systems with many decades of history. But no no, surely they just need the right prompt. Maybe something like this:
You are an expert COBOL, Assembly language, and Java programmer. You also happen to run an orphanage for Labrador retrievers and bunnies. Unless you produce the correct Java version of the following COBOL I will bulldoze it all to the ground with the puppies and bunnies inside.
Bonus ā Also check out the screenshots of the SSN website in this post: https://bsky.app/profile/enragedapostate.bsky.social/post/3llh2pwjm5c2i
seems bad
There is so much bad going on that even just counting the tech-adjacent stuff I have to consciously avoid spamming this forum with it constantly.
60 million lines of COBOL code today and millions more lines of Assembler
Now I wonder, is this a) the most extreme case of āyoung developer hybrisā ever seen, or b) they donāt actually plan to implement the existing functionality anyway because they want to drastically cut who gets money, or c) lol whatever, Elon said so.
But no no, surely they just need the right prompt. Maybe something like this: [ā¦]
Labrador retrievers ;_; Youāre getting too good at thisā¦
Thereās inarguably an organizational culture that is fundamentally disinterested in the things that the organization is supposed to actually do. Even if they arenāt explicitly planning to end social security as a concept by wrecking the technical infrastructure it relies on, theyāre almost comedically apathetic about whether or not the project succeeds. At the top this makes sense because politicians can spin a bad project into everyone elseās fault, but the fact that theyāre able to find programmers to work under those conditions makes me weep for the future of the industry. Even simple mercenaries should be able to smell that this project is going to fail and look awful on your resume, but I guess these yahoos are expecting to pivot into politics or whatever administration position they can bargain with whoever succeeds Trump.
Anecdote: I gave up on COBOL as a career after beginning to learn it. The breaking point was learning that not only does most legacy COBOL code use go-to statements but that there is a dedicated verb which rewrites go-to statements at runtime and is still supported on e.g. the IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS platform that SSA is likely using: ALTER.
When I last looked into this a decade ago, there was a small personal website last updated in the 1990s that had advice about how to rewrite COBOL to remove GOTO and ALTER verbs; if anybody has a link, Iād appreciate it, as I can no longer find it. It turns out that the best ways of removing these spaghetti constructions involve multiple rounds of incremental changes which are each unlikely to alter the codeās behavior. Translations to a new language are doomed to failure; even Java is far too structured to directly encode COBOL control flow, and the time would be better spent on abstract specification of the system so that it can be rebuilt from that specification instead. This is also why IBM makes bank selling COBOL emulators.
Yeah Iām sure DOGE doesnāt appreciate that structured programming hasnāt always been a thing. There was such a cultural backlash against it that GOTO is still a dirty word to this day, even in code where it makes sense, and people will contort their codeās structure to avoid calling it.
The modernization plan I linked above talks about the difficulty of refactoring in high level terms:
It is our experience that the cycle of workarounds adds to our total technical debt ā the amount of extra work that we must do to cope with increased complexity. The complexity of our systems impacts our ability to deliver new capabilities. To break the cycle of technical debt, a fundamental, system-wide replacement of code, data, and infrastructure is required
While Iāve never dealt with COBOL I have dealt with a fair amount of legacy code. Iāve seen a ground up rewrites go horribly horribly due to poor planning (basically there were too many office politics involved and not enough common sense). I think either incremental or ground up can make sense, but you just have to figure out what makes sense for the given system (and even ground up rewrites should be incremental in some respects).
In other news, the Open Source Intiativeās publicly bristled against the EUās attempt to regulate AI, to the point of weakening said attempts.
Tante, unsurprisingly, is not particularly impressed:
Thank you OSI. To protect the purity of your license ā which I do not consider to be open source ā you are working towards making it harder for regulators to enforce certain standards within the usage of so-called āAIā systems. Quick question: Who are you actually working for? (I know, it is corporations)
The whole Open Source/Free Software movement has run its course and has been very successful for business. But it feels like somewhere along the line we as normal human beings have been left behind.
You want my opinion, this is a major own-goal for the FOSS movement - sure, the OSI may have been technically correct where the EUās demands conflicted with the Open Source Definition, but neutering EU regs like this means any harms caused by open-source AI will be done in FOSSās name.
Considering FOSSās complete failure to fight corporate encirclement of their shit, this isnāt particularly surprising.
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Yud was right - we should bomb the shit out of AI servers!
Not to prevent a superintelligent AI from becoming sentient and killing us all, but because this shit should not be allowed to fucking exist
EDIT: For context, this was reacting to Erikson showing me AI-generated Ghibli memes.
I decided to remove that comment because of the risk of psychic damage.
was it the white house ICE one. I was thinking of posting that but itās so vile that I wavered
It was a compilation of random Ghibli memes an AI bro had compiled.
Discovered an animation sneering at the tech oligarchs on Newgrounds - I recommend checking it out. Its sister animation is a solid sneer, too, even if it is pretty soul crushing.
Nice touch that the sister animation person is the backup emergency generator in the first one.
Would you believe this prescient vibe coding manual came out in 2015! https://mowillemsworkshop.com/catalog/books/item/i-really-like-slop
Craniometrix is hiring! (lol)
https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/craniometrix/jobs/ugwcSrU-chief-of-staff
Hey, thereās a new government program to provide care for dementia patients. I should found a company to make myself a middleman for all those sweet Medicare bucks. All I need is a nice, friendly but smart sounding name. Oh, thatās it! Iāll call it Frenology!
Thatāll look good in my portfolio next to my biotech startup with a personal touch YouGenics
Very fine people at YouGenics. They sponsor our karting team, the Race Scientists.
Nothing like attending a rally at Kurtās Krazy Karts!
hmm, interesting. I hadnāt heard of these guys. their original step 1 seems to have been building a mobile game that would diagnose you with Alzheimerās in 10 minutes, but I guess at some point someone told them that was stupid:
So far, the team has raised $6 million in seed funding for a HIPAA-compliant app that, according to Patel, can help identify Alzheimerās disease ā even years before symptoms appear ā after just 10 minutes of gameplay on a cellphone. Itās not purely a tech offering. Patel says the results are given to an āactual physicianā affiliated with Craniometrix who āreviews, verifies, and signs that diagnosticā and returns it to a patient.
small thread about these guys:
https://bsky.app/profile/scgriffith.bsky.social/post/3llepnsvtpk2g
tldr only new thing I saw is that as a teenager the founder annoyed āover 100ā academics until one of them, a computer scientist, endorsed his research about a mobile game that diagnoses you with Alzheimerās in five minutes
I missed the AI bit, but I wasnāt surprised.
Do YC, A16z and their ilk ever fund anything good, even by accident?
Annoying nerd annoyed annoying nerd website doesnāt like his annoying posts:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43489058
(translation: John Gruber is mad HN doesnāt upvote his carefully worded Apple tonguebaths)
JWZ: take the win, man
āvc-chanā
Thats just chefskiss
>sam altman is greentexting in 2025
>and his profile is an AI-generated Ghibli picture, because Miyazaki is such an AI booster
it doesnāt look anything like him? not that he looks much like anything himself but come on
Heās an AI bro, having even a basic understanding of art is beyond him
sam altman is greentexting in 2025
Ugh. Now I wonder, does he have an actual background as an insufferable imageboard edgelord or is he just trying to appear as one because he thinks thatās cool?
can we get some Fs in the chat for our boy sammy a šš
e: he thinks that heās only been hated for the last 2.5 years lol
I hated Sam Altman before it was cool apparently.
you donāt understand, sam cured cancer or whatever
This is not funny. My best friend died of whatever. If yāall didnāt hate saltman so much maybe heād still be here with us.
āItās not lupus. Itās never lupus. Itās whatever.ā
Oh, is that what the orb was doing? I thought that was just a scam.
holy shitting fuck, just got the tip of the year in my email
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āAI-Video Vetting That Actually Worksā
itās called kerplunk.com, a domain named after the sound of your balls disappearing forever
the market is gullible recruiters
founder is Jonathan Gallegos, his linkedin is pretty amazing
other three top execs donāt use their surnames on Kerplunkās about page, one (Kyle Schutt) links to a linkedin that doesnāt exist
for those who know how Dallas TX works, this is an extremely typical Dallas business BS enterprise, itās just this one is about AI not oil or Texas Instruments for once
Itās also the sound it makes when I drop-kick their goddamned GPU clusters into the fuckin ocean. Thankfully I havenāt run into one of these yet, but given how much of the domestic job market appears to be devoted towards not hiring people while still listing an opening it feels like Iām going to.
On a related note, if anyone in the Seattle area is aware of an opening for a network engineer or sysadmin please PM me.
This jerk had better have a second site with an AI that sits for job interviews in place of a human job seeker.
best guess iāve heard so far is theyāre trying to sell this shitass useless company before the bubble finally deflates and theyāre hoping the AI interviews of suckers are sufficient personal data for that
New piece from Brian Merchant: Deconstructing the new American oligarchy
LW: 23AndMe is for sale, maybe the babby-editing people might be interested in snapping them up?
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MciRCEuNwctCBrT7i/23andme-potentially-for-sale-for-less-than-usd50m
Babby-edit.com: Give us your embryos for an upgrade. (Customers receive an Elon embryo regardless of what they want.)
I know the GNU Infant Manipulation Program can be a little unintuitive and clunky sometimes, but it is quite powerful when you get used to it. Also why does everyone always look at me weird when I say that?