I am asking here because all the political subs don’t allow a question, and US politics used to seemed so simple until to understand this man came along.

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    That’s bc collusion was made up by democrats as a way to deflect from why Clinton lost on 2016. It’s not that she’s an old corrupt fucker that nobody likes, it’s bc the ruskies came in and sabotaged her so drumpf could win (according to dems at least)

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        They’re not, at least not inherently. But afaik there’s no evidence of Trump or his administration working with Russia. Russia did interfere through social media ads and troll farms spreading disinformation, but unless there’s something I’m missing, the idea of collusion between them and Trump is just speculation

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          Other than the Manafort/Kilminik stuff and Roger Stone being found guilty of obstructing the investigating of ties to Russia (surely you don’t to that if you don’t need to) there were only less-than-conviction-worthy actions by straight up everyone in his circle.

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            The roger stone stuff sounds pretty sus, I haven’t heard about that or the manafort/kilminik stuff, I’ll look that up

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            There’s a massive steaming pile of bad shit you can call out Trump and his administration for, working with Russia isn’t one of them. If that makes me a snowflake then merry Christmas, hope you find president Hillary under your tree :3

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      Russia directly helped Trump. Hillary is a piece of shit who no one wants to vote for.

      Both are true. Try and cope with it.