In the thick of 2020, when COVID-19 was unearthing vast unemployment and breeding global uncertainty, the U.S. saw a peculiar trend. Instead of the anticipated sharp decline, fertility rates dropped only marginally. Key takeaways from a new study, The COVID-19 baby bump in the United States (Martha J. Bailey,
  • Dodecahedron December@sh.itjust.works
    175·
    1 year ago

    Stop the population decline? Is this some nazi-centric great replacement bullshit? Our population and birth rates are fine. What the hell kind of propaganda is this?!

    edit: maybe this is just a poorly-choosen domain name.

    • tintory@lemm.eeOP
      101·
      1 year ago

      Have you even read the article

      More evidence is popping up that increased social spending and flexible work arrangements, including remote work, can positively impact fertility rates, as shown in California. Yet, influential figures in California like Elon Musk and other Silicon Valley “pronatalists”, are against these measures and more. Their opposition to remote work, work flexibility, and social spending, coupled with efforts to hamper new infrastructure projects and drive up housing costs. They will not make it easy to do what’s needed.

        • tintory@lemm.eeOP
          31·
          1 year ago

          Nothing on the site, nothing, is related to that insane right wing nonsense

          It just keeps hammering in is the need for more Social Spending, YIMBYism, and Mental Health

          • Dodecahedron December@sh.itjust.works
            45·
            1 year ago

            Ok, then why the domain name? Why the name of the site? Where is this decline?

            I mean, at some point in this chart, the admin of the site decided “stoppopulationdecline” was the brand they were going to go with… and yet, I see no point in this chart where the population was declining.

            The only folks I hear talking about the decline of population usually refer to the decline fo the white population.

            From what I’ve seen, population decline is usually discussed in terms of birth rates, and less so on the current population declining due deaths. If this site is refering to an increase in deaths as population decline, we would think we would see it on the graph.

            It just may be an unfortunate name chosen. It certainly raises my BS alarm.

            • tintory@lemm.eeOP
              41·
              1 year ago

              1. That Chart does not cover a lot of things and phenomena

              2. A lot of right wing lunatics do talk about whites, especially the creepy nerds who run pronatalist.org

              3. people also talk about population decline in reference to Asia and Latin America whose suffering from mass emigration and collapsing fertility , how people are dying younger and younger now in the western world because of austerity and corporate greed, or how young people don’t have homes because of NIMBYs to the town towns are declining, or because of economic strife

              • Dodecahedron December@sh.itjust.works
                21·
                1 year ago

                1. It is, however, a graph of the world population. I see your point though.

                2. Not agreeing with pronatalism but it is interesting comparison in domain names. Pronatalist on it’s cover sounds nice, like ‘prolife’. Who isn’t for life?! And births are life! So, hey we found the solution to the population decline, let’s all start making babies, pronatalism! Meanwhile I can quickly google and see that wow, population isn’t declining, just look at the graph! So, as a visitor to the site who doesn’t know anything about it, “pronatalism” “prolife” and “pro-candy” all sound like nice, safe, easy things to get into. Stop population decline sounds like trying to stop a thing that isn’t happening until you understand that it’s a more nuanced view of population - that decline is happening but on the scale we see in the graph you can’t really detect it. (Note:i don’t support prolife or pronatalism agendas, i just wanted to do a thought experiment to show my point).

                3. Fair point. It’s hard to convey that in a domain name. Maybe stoppopulationdecline does that to most people already.

    • tintory@lemm.eeOP
      61·
      1 year ago

      You really didn’t read the article

      points out that African American women had it harder during the COVID crisis, the brunt of the crisis’s financial and health impacts, and we need serious policies to address.

        • tintory@lemm.eeOP
          41·
          1 year ago

          Then why did you accuse it of being a Nazi site???

          It might be pushing agenda but that agenda clearly isn’t conservative

          • Dodecahedron December@sh.itjust.works
            22·
            1 year ago

            I didn’t call it a nazi site. I was referring to the great replacement theory, which is a nazi theory. Clearly the domain name collided with that theory but it isn’t the meaning of the site.

    • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
      63·
      1 year ago

      Ignorant American propaganda.

      Yes, it does share many, many similarities with Nazi rhetoric, especially when it comes from conservatives.

      • tintory@lemm.eeOP
        42·
        1 year ago

        Like what?

        Please tell me oh wise one

        Tell me what in this site has Nazi rhetoric because as far as I know Nazis hate spending money on the poor

      • Dodecahedron December@sh.itjust.works
        31·
        1 year ago

        I thought the same and it may be the case still, but skimming the site’s content doesn’t suggest overt rhetoric. There may be that bias in the agenda somewhere but it seems to focus on human rights issues and not the great replacement theory. Unfortunate domain name, I guess. See my other discussions with op on this link.

        • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
          4·
          1 year ago

          I’m not speaking of the site, but just responding to the, “what kind of propaganda is this?” question.

          I answered that question: It’s American ignorance.