• cmhe@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Yeah, it is. The act of mansplaining isn’t gender specific. It is about the attempt to raise someone’s status above someone else by nitpicking what they said, with often obvious facts.

    The men doing it to women just seem more popular, but men and women do it to anyone.

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      2 days ago

      The fact that the boiling is not spontaneous is not obvious especially on account of how it’s not true. So that definition is going to need some tweaking. And anyway I think it’s much more likely that the person just didn’t notice they were replying to an astronaut than that they thought they could elevate their status. They were trying to share their (incorrect) knowledge.

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        2 days ago

        I guess the question is who they were even talking to. Where they talking to the astronaut, or anyone reading their message. That would make a difference.

        If I say: “When the sun rises…” and someone comes along to enlighten me about astronomy and how the sun doesn’t rise, that would be mansplaining and not correcting. If they talk to someone else because my words inspirerd them to think about this, then it wouldn’t.

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          21 hours ago

          So your conception contradicts the other person in this thread’s, because they said it’s not about group dynamics and you just said it is. They literally said men mansplain to each other.

          https://lemmy.world/comment/19090994

          Yet again we must come to the conclusion that the only thing everyone can agree on regarding mansplaining is that it’s “a man explaining.”

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            18 hours ago

            I don’t see the contradiction… If a man explains something to another person in a condescending and nitpicky way, it is called mansplaining. But it becomes blurry if the man explains it not to one other person, which can be assumed already possesses that knowledge, but a group where some people might find that comment not useless or condescending, were it could be a correction or clarification instead.

            Astronaut explains excitedly about her experience of the day, with a joke and some not completely factual information while addressing the general public. The ‘water spontaneously boils’ is not a scientific description but a way to make people interested in learning more about the science behind it.

            Here are two perspectives this could be seen as:

            1. Man notices that and addresses the Astronaut, explaining to her something that she already knows, in order to raise his own status, through condescending and nitpicking. -> mansplaining
            2. Man notices that, assumes the Astronaut knows, but wants to give more information/clarification to the public about this why that happens. -> not mansplaining

            From the wording of that exchange, I would think it rather is addressed to the astronaut, so case 1. But this is open to interpretation.

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      2 days ago

      The definition says the opposite. But even if it was the case, it should NOT be used like this becaue it is specifically targeting men, which would be sexist. Being the very thing it meant to destroy.