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What don’t you believe about what I said? You don’t believe an aid pier was built and distributed 20 Million lbs of food in addition to 2.4 Million via airdrop and 33 Million via land route? You don’t believe they withheld weapons, you think Trump lied about that so he could brag about delivering them? You don’t believe Pete Hegseth literally wants death or exodus of every Palestinian, a complete reversal of what the Biden administration was saying?
Biden doesn’t run campuses. Universities are privatized in the USA.
20 million sounds like a lot if you don’t know that Gaza needs at a MINIMUM 4.5 million pounds a day. Great, so that’s 5 days. This was well over a month after it became a famine. And why did we need a pier or airdrops in the first place? Trucks were lined up ready to bring in everything they needed, but were being blocked by our ally Israel.
I do believe they withheld SOME weapons, and not many at that. We should have withheld ALL weapons because that’s what US and international law require when a genocide is being committed.
You don’t believe Pete Hegseth literally wants death or exodus of every Palestinian,
I don’t believe Biden wanted anything less. Even if he did, he did everything necessary to bring it about. His explicit attacks on protesters made his intentions entirely clear. Quit acting like he still has the mask on. The things he was saying and the things he was doing were entirely different. Netanyahu said that they’re trying to minimize civilian casualties. Do you believe that too?
Biden doesn’t run campuses.
I never said he did. I’m talking about explicit statements made both by him and repeatedly by his press secretary. He was repeating word for word slanderous AIPAC talking points.
You believe simultaneously that the Biden administration was lying but that the Trump administration is telling the truth about genocide, why is that? Netanyahu has to lie, because his ass is justified for invasion in international justice court if he’s found guilty of attempting his genocide, but what would Biden gain? What’s his angle? Why spend hundreds of millions if not billions on supplying aid and withholding bought weapons, working towards the opposite of his supposed goal?
I don’t believe Trump ever told the truth in his entire life, and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t understand truth as a concept. I never said anything to indicate otherwise. This discussion was about Biden who has a completely different set of psychological pathologies.
I couldn’t care less what Biden has to gain. He is full-on an ideological Zionist from what I can tell, and he also has an interest in keeping friendly with AIPAC, but I won’t claim his motivations are as clear or transactional as Trump’s.
The weapons he withheld were a bare minimum and did supply him with the only modicum of political cover he had. It was also a way to try and keep America’s hands looking clean without actually applying pressure on Netanyahu to stop the genocide. It’s the same gambit a lot of Democrats still play when they talk about “defensive weapons” as if those weapons don’t enable aggression by shielding Israel from the consequences of their actions.
What willful ignorance? I’ve said nothing to exonerate Trump for the harm he is responsible for. He has simply not been the subject of this conversation at all. You can’t defend Biden, so you’re shifting to whataboutism. It’s a pretty obvious dodge, but I guess it’s all you’ve got.
I don’t believe Trump ever told the truth in his entire life, and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t understand truth as a concept. I never said anything to indicate otherwise. This discussion was about Biden who has a completely different set of psychological pathologies.
Actually, you know what, your blatant refusal to talk about how Trump is worse than Biden aside for a moment, I had totally glossed over the fact that you basically said you don’t believe Trump is committing a genocide because you believe everything he says is a lie and he’s told you that he’s going to kill or relocate every Palestinian.
I made no such refusal. I just called out your whataboutism. Whether Trump will be functionally worse than Biden for Palestinians is a pretty academic exercise though. Dead is dead, and both Trump and Biden have blood on their hands. I’m not as impressed as you are that Biden extended their lifespans by 4 days, in-between weapons shipments.
I never said that everything Trump said is an exact opposite of the truth. He just speaks with no concern whatsoever for what’s true. It’s all lies, true or not. Your goofy interpretation of that is so dumb that it can only be disingenuous.
Anyways, this conversation came from your statement about Democrats only doing good things or something to that effect. Democrats being better than Republicans, or Biden being better than Trump, is not the bar you set, you disingenuous little shit.
What don’t you believe about what I said? You don’t believe an aid pier was built and distributed 20 Million lbs of food in addition to 2.4 Million via airdrop and 33 Million via land route? You don’t believe they withheld weapons, you think Trump lied about that so he could brag about delivering them? You don’t believe Pete Hegseth literally wants death or exodus of every Palestinian, a complete reversal of what the Biden administration was saying?
Biden doesn’t run campuses. Universities are privatized in the USA.
20 million sounds like a lot if you don’t know that Gaza needs at a MINIMUM 4.5 million pounds a day. Great, so that’s 5 days. This was well over a month after it became a famine. And why did we need a pier or airdrops in the first place? Trucks were lined up ready to bring in everything they needed, but were being blocked by our ally Israel.
I do believe they withheld SOME weapons, and not many at that. We should have withheld ALL weapons because that’s what US and international law require when a genocide is being committed.
I don’t believe Biden wanted anything less. Even if he did, he did everything necessary to bring it about. His explicit attacks on protesters made his intentions entirely clear. Quit acting like he still has the mask on. The things he was saying and the things he was doing were entirely different. Netanyahu said that they’re trying to minimize civilian casualties. Do you believe that too?
I never said he did. I’m talking about explicit statements made both by him and repeatedly by his press secretary. He was repeating word for word slanderous AIPAC talking points.
You believe simultaneously that the Biden administration was lying but that the Trump administration is telling the truth about genocide, why is that? Netanyahu has to lie, because his ass is justified for invasion in international justice court if he’s found guilty of attempting his genocide, but what would Biden gain? What’s his angle? Why spend hundreds of millions if not billions on supplying aid and withholding bought weapons, working towards the opposite of his supposed goal?
I don’t believe Trump ever told the truth in his entire life, and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t understand truth as a concept. I never said anything to indicate otherwise. This discussion was about Biden who has a completely different set of psychological pathologies.
I couldn’t care less what Biden has to gain. He is full-on an ideological Zionist from what I can tell, and he also has an interest in keeping friendly with AIPAC, but I won’t claim his motivations are as clear or transactional as Trump’s.
The weapons he withheld were a bare minimum and did supply him with the only modicum of political cover he had. It was also a way to try and keep America’s hands looking clean without actually applying pressure on Netanyahu to stop the genocide. It’s the same gambit a lot of Democrats still play when they talk about “defensive weapons” as if those weapons don’t enable aggression by shielding Israel from the consequences of their actions.
Your willful ignorance of Trumps actions only leads to avoidable death of Palestinians.
What willful ignorance? I’ve said nothing to exonerate Trump for the harm he is responsible for. He has simply not been the subject of this conversation at all. You can’t defend Biden, so you’re shifting to whataboutism. It’s a pretty obvious dodge, but I guess it’s all you’ve got.
Actually, you know what, your blatant refusal to talk about how Trump is worse than Biden aside for a moment, I had totally glossed over the fact that you basically said you don’t believe Trump is committing a genocide because you believe everything he says is a lie and he’s told you that he’s going to kill or relocate every Palestinian.
I made no such refusal. I just called out your whataboutism. Whether Trump will be functionally worse than Biden for Palestinians is a pretty academic exercise though. Dead is dead, and both Trump and Biden have blood on their hands. I’m not as impressed as you are that Biden extended their lifespans by 4 days, in-between weapons shipments.
I never said that everything Trump said is an exact opposite of the truth. He just speaks with no concern whatsoever for what’s true. It’s all lies, true or not. Your goofy interpretation of that is so dumb that it can only be disingenuous.
Anyways, this conversation came from your statement about Democrats only doing good things or something to that effect. Democrats being better than Republicans, or Biden being better than Trump, is not the bar you set, you disingenuous little shit.