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    I’m quite impressed by the Irish government here. Standing up for crusty pro Palestine protestors by sending in their freaking ambassador.

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      Irish people have contemporary, first-hand experience with colonialism and oppression from the British. I think their support for Palestine is admirable and brave, but it’s also not surprising given their recent and not-so-recent history.

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        For all their clamoring about soviet oppression, I haven’t seen anything similar from the Eastern European governments.

        And to our own shame, the governments of Greece and Cyprus have chosen to align more closely with Israel, despite a recent history of oppression by Turkey. Probably precisely because Turkey has gone the other way.

        So it is not at all obvious that Ireland would be so fucking based. Credit where credit is due.

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    Wow. Can you imagine living in a country that punishes police brutality? I’m so goddamn jealous.

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    Sorry for what happened. Just fyi - Berlin got the worst police in all of Europe,. They’re even worse than russian police…

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      Are you fucking serious? Berlin police worse than Russian police? Berlin police suck compared to other German cities, however your comparison is ridiculous.

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        I think its a comment on Germany (the state’s) stance on the genocide in palestine given the article responded to. Nazis also breathed air and ate food, but its the racism, lies, and genocide that was bad.

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          I’m really trying very hard not to complain, after all I was born in Germany, the country responsible for the worst genocide in human history. I feel like I don’t have the right to complain - so let me at least EXplain:

          I’m 49 years old. I absolutely hate our Nazis (which sadly do exist). Always did, always will.

          In the early 1990s, I participated in a student exchange to Paris - and my host family was Jewish. They were amazing people, but I was 15 and didn’t know much about our history back then. To this day, I remember the face of the dad who greeted me, showed me my room and told me they were Jewish. Who knows how many of his relatives had been killed by Germans? And I was this spoiled brat who knew fuck all and was just interested in playing video games. Makes me cringe to this day.

          Last year I went to the Netherlands on vacation. Sat on a park bench in Zaanse Schans, looking at windmills. Old guy asked me if he could sit beside me. We start talking. Turns out his Jewish dad fled from the Nazis to Mexico. Bam - one moment you mind your own business, the next you’re in a delicate, very serious conversation. I clumsily tried telling him all I felt in that moment, the infinite sadness in my heart about Nazi crimes and I couldn’t find the right words.

          These things happen. It’s not easy, but I try to do my part.

          I despise the Nazis for impacting so many lives. I know my problems are minute compared to the impact Nazi crimes had on their victims. But what I’m also saying is that it really hurts to read comments like “Germany loves its nazis” on here when I hate them so much.

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      The way Germany supports and defends Israel and the genocide they are causing, they sure do

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      Germany likes to PR itself as the greatest, most accepting, issue free nation on earth. Until you actually take a look and realize they’re not as perfect as they claim and that Nazis and racists very much are still allowed to exist in Germany. The fact that they’re investigating for “insulting” police tells you they’re still fucked

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    It is unclear from the footage whether the police officer intentionally targeted O’Brien’s face.

    Eh… It’s not unclear in the slightest. The first punch was an obvious jab right to their nose. The second one drew quite a bit of blood.

    They were an absolute champ to just stand there and take it. Huge respect.

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      It was definitely intentional, but also it looks like only one punch. The video just shows it from 2 angles.

      Still enough to hopefully get the pig suspended and fined.

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    How many incidents there have been like this by the Berlin police, we stopped counting. It is better if they wear brown uniforms to reflect their stance on the genocide. Sturmabteilung pigs

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    That guy looks exactly like a Nazi from a contemporary war movie.

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      Yeah, hoping some German can shed some light on whether those two things can be illegal to say to a cop in that context – seems wild to me.

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        Even if they were illegal it wouldn’t justify the aggressive use of force like that. He was just angry at being insulted and took it out on them. His poor fee fees. :'(

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        “fucking genocide supporter” and “you’re acting like a fucking Nazi” both would be considered insults and the police office could charge them with that. He could have just charged them for insult and be done with that. It has been clearly recorded so it would have been no problem to prove in court. However punching is excessive force. There was no physical attack on him, so no need to defend himself or some sort of restistance to arrest requiring him to do that.

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          I’m 95% certain the police and state prosecutor will treat it as self-defense. For “severe” insults you are legally permitted to act in self-defense and I’m sure the police will therefore view the punches as justified.

          98% of all police brutality charges are dropped in Germany. This will statistically be one of them.

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        @TipsyMcGee @dubyakay so insulting someone (police or someone else doesn’t matter) is in fact illegal in Germany and I would say these were insults. BUT this never allows you to attack someone, especially the police here is quite strict with that. But tbh. internal investigations normally do nothing at all.