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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
Starting things off with a newsletter by Jared White that caught my attention: Why āNormiesā Hate Programmers and the End of the Playful Hacker Trope, which directly discusses how the public perception of programmers has changed for the worse, and how best to rehabilitate it.
Adding my own two cents, the rise of gen-AI has definitely played a role here - Iām gonna quote Baldur Bjarnason directly here, since he said it better than I could:
This is an interesting crystallization that parallels a lot of thoughts Iāve been having, and itās particularly hopeful that it seeks to discard the āhackerā moniker and instead specifically describe the subjects as programmers. Looking back, I was only becoming terminally online circa 1997, and back then it seemed like there was an across-the-spectrum effort to reclaim the term āhackerā into a positive connotation after the federal prosecutions of the early 90s. People from aspirant-executive types like Paul Graham to dirty hippies like RMS were insistent that being a āhackerā was a good thing, maybe the best possible thing. This was, of course, a dead letter as soon as Facebook set up at āOne Hacker Wayā in Menlo Park, but Iād say itās definitely for the best to finally put a solid tombstone on top of that cultural impulse.
As well, because my understanding of the defining activity of the positive-good āhackerā is that itās all too close to Zuckerbergās āmove fast and break things,ā and I think Jared White would probably agree with me. Paul Graham was willing to embrace the term because he was used to the interactive development style of Lisp environments, but the mainstream tools have only fitfully evolved in that direction at best. When āhacking,ā the āhackerā makes a series of short, small iterations with a mostly nebulous goal in mind, and the bulk of the effort may actually be whatās invested in the minimum viable product. The self-conception inherits from geek culture a slumped posture of almost permanent insufficiency, perhaps hiding a Straussian victimhood complex to justify maintaining oneās own otherness.
In mentioning Jobs, the piece gestures towards the important cultural distinction that I still think is underexamined. If weāre going to reclaim and rehabilitate even homeopathic amounts of Jobsā reputation, the thesis weāre trying to get at is that his conception of computers as human tools is directly at odds with the AI promotersā (and, more broadly, most cloud vendorsā) conception of computers as separate entities. The development of generative AI is only loosely connected with the sanitized smiley-face conception of āhacking.ā The sheer amount of resources and time spent on training foreclose the possibility of a rapid development loop, and youāre still not guaranteed viable output at the end. Your āhacksā can devolve into a complete mess, and at eye-watering expense.
I went and skimmed Grahamās Hackers and Painters again to see if I could find any choice quotes along these lines, since he spends that entire essay overdosing on the virtuosity of the āhacker.ā And hoo boy:
You think Graham will ever realize that weāre culminating a generation of his precious āhackersā who ultimately failed at all this?
re: last line: no, he never will admit or concede to a single damn thing, and thatās why every time I remember this article exists I have to reread dabblers & blowhards one more time purely for defensive catharsis
I donāt even know the degree to which thatās the fault of the old hackers, though. I think we need to acknowledge the degree to which a CS degree became a good default like an MBA before it, only instead of ābusinessā it was pitched as a ticket to a well-paying job in ācomputerā. I would argue that a large number of those graduates were never going to be particularly interested in the craft of programming beyond what was absolutely necessary to pull a paycheck.
Interesting, Iād go rhetorically more in this direction: A hack is not a solution, itās the temporary fix (or⦠break?) until you get around to doing it properly. On the axis where hacks are on one end and solutions on the other, genAI shit is beyond the hack. Itās not even a temporary fix, its less, functionally and culturally.
A hack can also just be a clever way to use a system in a way it wasnt designed.
Say you put a Ring doorbell on a drone as a perimeter defense thing? A hack. See also the woman who makes bad robots.
It also can be a certain playfulness with tech. Which is why hacker is dead. It cannot survive contact with capitalist forces.
AFAIK the USA is the only country where programmers make very high wages compared to other college-educated people in a profession anyone can enter. Its a myth that so-called STEM majors earn much more than others, although people with a professional degree often launch their careers quicker than people without (but if you really want to launch your career quickly, learn a trade or work in an extractive industry somewhere remote). So I think for a long time programmers in the USA made peace with FAANG because they got a share of the booty.
Not the only. Former USSR and Eastern Europe as well, and itās way worse there. Typically, SWE would earn about several TIMES more than your college-educated person. This leads to programmers being obnoxious libertarian nazi fucktards.
Hackers is dead. (Apologies to punk)
Id say that for one reason alone, when Musk claimed grok was from the guide nobody really turned on him.
Unrelated to programmers or hackers, Elons father (CW: racism) went fully mask off and claims Elon agrees with him. Which considering his promotion of the UK racists does not feel off the mark. (And he is spreading the dumb ā[Africans] have an [average] IQ of 63ā shit, and claims it is all genetic. Sure man, the average African needs help understanding the business end of a hammer. As I said before, guess I met the smartest Africans in the world then, as my university had a few smart exchange students from an African country. If you look at his statements it is even dumber than normal, as he says population, so that means either non-Black Africans are not included, showing just how much he thinks of himself as the other, or they are, and the Black African average is even lower).