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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
pushy rationalist tried to glom onto and fly to meet my niche internet microcelebrity friend & i talked her through setting boundaries instead of installing this person in her life. my good deed for the week
In todayās torment nexus development news⦠you know how various cyberpunky type games let you hack into an enemyās augmentations and blow them up? Perhaps you thought this was stupid and unrealistic, and youād be right.
Maybe thatās the wrong example. How about a cursed evil ring that when you put it on, you couldnāt take it off and it wracks you with pain? Who hasnāt wanted one of those?
Happily, hard working torment nexus engineers have brought that dream one step closer, by having āsmart ringsā, powered by lithium polymer batteries. Yāknow, the things that can go bad, and swell up and catch fire? And that you shouldnāt puncture, because thatās a fire risk too, meaning cutting the ring off is somewhat dangerous? Fun times abound!
https://bsky.app/profile/emily.gorcen.ski/post/3m25263bs3c2g
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A pair of tweets, containing the text
Daniel aka ZONEofTECH on x.com: āAhhhā¦this isā¦not good. My Samsung Galaxy Ringās battery started swelling. While itās on my finger š¬. And while Iām about to board a flight š¬ Now I cannot take it off and this thing hurts. Any quick suggestions
Update:
- I was denied boarding due to this (been travelling for ~47h straight so this is really nice š). Need to pay for a hotel for the night now and get back home tomorrowš
- was sent to the hospital, as an emergency
- ring got removed
You can see the battery all swollen. Wonāt be wearing a smart ring ever again.
At least it wasnāt a cock ring.
Letās be honest: These are exactly the sort of people who will stick their dicks into the Torment Nexus.
It almost surely has been done, but dare I ask where one can find trashy romance a la āpegged by the basiliskā
āPegged in the ass by a physical manifestation of an online forum thought exercise gone horribly wrongā should be a Tingler if it isnāt already one.
There were some issues with an internet-connected chastity device not that long ago, but they were conventional āwe canāt be bothered to secure our web service, even when everyone is telling us it is terribleā issues, rather than āknob gets crushed and catches fireā. Still, thereās plenty of scope for someone to make one of those in future⦠OTA BMS firmware updates are very much a thing, and the market for alarming sex toys is practically unlimited.
(now I think about it, I suspect thereās a market for very poorly secured internet-connected sex toys. someone got off to that headline, Iām pretty certain)
Is your ring even swole, bro
YaaS: Yubitsume as a Service
AI video generation use case: hallucinatory RETVRN clips about the good old days, such as, uh, walmart 20 years ago?
It his the uncanny valley triggers quite hard. Itās faintly unsettling t watch at all, but every individual detail is just wrong and dreamlike in a bad way.
Also, weird scenery clipping, just like real kids did back in the day!
https://bsky.app/profile/mugrimm.bsky.social/post/3lzy77zydrc2q
genuinely think nostalgia might be the most purely evil emotion, and every one of these RETVRN ai videos i see strengthens that belief
It is a literal gateway to fascism imho, esp when people get into nostalgia for a time that never was.
And compared to nostalgia for mom n pop stores, this even is nostalgia for a mass produced product.
I will say that the flipping between characters in order to disguise the fact that longer clips are impractical to render is a neat trick and fits well into the advert-like design, but rewatching it just really reinforces how much those kids look like something pretending real hard to be a human.
Also, fake old-celluloid-film filter for something that was supposed to be from 20 years ago? Really?
Also, fake old-celluloid-film filter for something that was supposed to be from 20 years ago? Really?
I was gonna say that was probably the slop extruderās doing, but it looks to have been applied manually for some godforsaken reason. Best guess is whoever was behind this audiovisual extrusion thought ācelluloid filter = Nostalgiatmā.
I suspect it is also hiding some rendering artefacts.
I imagine it helps with the slightly plastic look that skin still gets too
hallucinatory RETVRN clips about the good old days
Nostalgiabait is the slopgensā specialty - being utterly incapable of creating anything new isnāt an issue if youāre trying to fabricate an idealis-
such as, uh, walmart 20 years ago?
Okay, stop everything, who the actual fuck would be nostalgic for going to a fucking Wal-Mart? Iāve got zero nostalgia for ASDA or any other British big-box hellscape like it, what the fuckās so different across the pond?
(Even from a āmaking nostalgiabaitā angle, something like, say, McDonalds would be a much better choice - unlike Wal-Mart, McDās directly targets kids with their advertising, all-but guaranteeing youāve got fuzzy childhood memories to take advantage of.)
The US economy is 100% on coyote time.
It wouldnāt matter if everyone came to their senses today. All the money thatās been invested into AI is gone. It has been turned into heat and swiftly-depreciating assets and can never be recouped.
Itās surreal isnāt it?
Oh hey, bay area techfash enthusing about AI and genocidal authoritarians? Must be a day ending in a Y. Today it is Vercel CEO and next.js dev Guillermo Rauch
https://nitter.net/rauchg/status/1972669025525158031
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A screenshot of a tweet by Guillermo Rauch, the CEO of Vercel. Thereās a photograph of him next to Netanyahu. The tweet reads:
Enjoyed my discussion with PM Netanyahu on how Al education and literacy will keep our free societies ahead. We spoke about Al empowering everyone to build software and the importance of ensuring it serves quality and progress. Optimistic for peace, safety, and greatness for Israel and its neighbors.
I also have strong opinions about not using next.js or vercel (and server-side javascript in general is a bit of a car crash) but even if you thought it was great you should probably have a look around for alternatives. Just not ruby on rails, perhaps.
Amazing how they all went from oh us poor nerds vs the jocks to bending the knee and licking the boots of the strongmen. see also YT bribing Trump.
ā¦to āitās OUR TIME NOWā, cf. the most recent two blogs from david heinemeier hansson, palmer fucking luckey in recent nixos thing etc. etc.
I know itās terrible being a drama gossip, but there are some Fun Times on bluesky at the moment. Iām sure most of you know the origins of the project, and the political leanings of the founders, but theyāre currently getting publicly riled up about trans folk and palestinians and tying themselves up in knots defending their decision to change the rules to keep jesse singal on site, and penniless victims of the idf off it.
They really cannot cope with the fact that their user base arenāt politically aligned with them, and are desperate to appease the fash (witness the crackdowns on peopleās reaction to charlie kirkās overdue departure from this vale of tears) and have currently reached the Posting Through It stage. Iām assuming at some point their self-image as Reasonable Centrists will crack and one or more of them will start throwing around transphobic slurs and/or sieg-heiling and bewailing how the awful leftists made them do it. Anyone want to hazard a guess at a timeline?
hereās a good summary of the situation including an analysis of the brand new dogwhistle a bunch of bluesky posters are throwing around in support of Jay and Singal and layers of other nasty shit
hereās Jay Graber, CEO of Bluesky, getting called out by lowtaxās ex-wife:
hereās Jay posting about mangosteen (mangosteen juice was a weird MLM lowtax tried to market on the Something Awful forums as he started to spiral)
Anyone want to hazard a guess at a timeline?
since Jay posted AI generated art about dec/acc and put the term in her profile, her little āironicā nod to e/acc and to AI, my guess is this is coming very soon
Huh, didnāt know about the guy behind tangled.org (Anirudh Oppiliappan) being a waffle enthusiast too 𫤠Just visited his bsky profile, and heās enthusing about a ādecentralised accelerationismā post by jay.
I hadnāt really seen the point of the tangled project (Iām not sure what atproto brings to version control) but I was interested in an ecosystem around the jujutsu vcs stuff. I guess I wonāt find that here.
ok plz explain what āwafflesā means in this context
TL;DR: Itās all a meme-poisoned bluesky circle-jerk involving transphobes and people who desperately want transphobes to think theyāre cool.
The link from self to mccās bluesky thread sums up this stuff with references, but to attempt to summarise the summary, thereās a tweet from the depths of time (2017) that says
Twitter the only place where well articulated sentences still get misinterpreted. You can say āI like pancakesā and somebody will say āSo you hate waffles?ā
Bluesky ceo jay graber uses āwafflesā as shorthand referencing this post, and whipped it out when asked about blueskyās ongoing unwillingness to do anything about noted transphobe jesse singal, who has since posted about how much he loves waffles.
jfc
Thanks for taking the time to expand
This doesnāt include her blurb about, āare you paying us? where???ā
But werenāt there a multitude of people clamoring for a Bluesky subscription service from the get-go? Out of recognition that this situation was one of the potential failure modes?
The question on getting paid might give credence to the rumors that theyāre running out of money and wonāt make it (user-growth wise) as an ad platform. Which, lol and also lmao.
Yeah, I canāt see that theyāre doing anything besides burning runway. Itās probably shortly going to become cliche to say, āglad I never made an account there,ā but, welp, glad I never made an account there
But werenāt there a multitude of people clamoring for a Bluesky subscription service from the get-go? Out of recognition that this situation was one of the potential failure modes?
Even beyond that, the Twitter refugees came to Bluesky because they wanted a Nazi-free successor to Twitter. Most of them wouldāve happily pitched in to keep the site alive whilst goodwill remained.
Bluesky wanted to be Nazi Twitter, then Elon purchased Twitter and stole their market.
And all this because she simply could not shut up. Which seems to be one of the oldest, modding a large community rules.
Nobody ever seems to learn the ānever get high from your own supplyā lesson. Gotta get that hit of thousands of people instantly supporting and agreeing with whatever dumbfuck thought just fell out.
You absolutely donāt have to hand it to zuckerberg, but he at least is well aware that he runs an unethical ad company thatās bad for the world, has always expressed his total contempt for his users, and has not posted through it.
whenever thereās a huge scandal he listens to his PR people, keeps his mouth shut, then goes on a media tour where he lies his ass off in exactly the same way at each stop. itās that simple and yet almost no other tech people can do it
You absolutely donāt have to hand it to zuckerberg, but he at least is well aware that he runs an unethical ad company thatās bad for the world, has always expressed his total contempt for his users, and has not posted through it.
Its an extremely low bar to clear, but Iāll begrudgingly hand it to him for being one of the few tech CEOs who didnāt actively limbo under it.
Well, theyāre already using āwafflesā as a transphobic slur (irony poisoning speedrun any%), so itās really more of a question of which transphobic slurs theyāll escalate to next.
Tyler Cowen saying some really weird shit about an AI āactressā.
(For people who might wonder why he is relevant. See his āsee alsoā section on wikipedia)
E: And you might wonder, rightfully imho, that this cannot be real, that this must be an edit. https://archive.is/vPr1B I have bad news.
The Wikipedia editors are on it.
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screenshot of Tyler Cowenās Wikipedia article, specifically the āPersonal lifeā section. The concluding sentence is āHe also prefers virgin actresses.ā
The AI industry is getting sneered by the dictionary.
dictionaries are obsolete bricks remembers that they are useful thatās why theyāre actually ai when you think about it
You know, I think that even the brick comparison still favors the traditional dictionary. After all, if you wanted to use it for traditional brick purposes like holding doors, weighing down papers, or throwing at [redacted], you would need to invest in a bunch of GPUS and burn them out generating a bunch of worthless slop, spending God only knows how much water, energy, and time. I want to save the rainforest as much as the next guy, but I think itās obvious that the paper brick is far more cost-effective for both the user and the environment. And provided you can clean the dirt and blood off afterwards, you can even still use it as a dictionary.
what is ālinear definitional biasā
Whatever the precise definition, it appears to be comorbid with stimulant dependency
E: eurgh, had forgotten the whole bsky waffle thing. Wasnāt making a reference to that, sorry if it came off as insensitive. Got rid of the comment anyway.
(I had totally forgotten this post, and also didnāt expect the CEO to double/triple down, and now make mentioning waffles into a anti-trans dogwhistle).
The sound a vibe coder makes while edging to Ani
(This is also what all their other words mean)
A good thing! (Unless you prefer noise machines that might give you random definitions with equal probabilities.)
The dictionary doesnt tell me how wise and smart my misinterpretation of a basic idea is and then tells me im right, weird AI bro.
Cāmon bro, itās just a bag of words bro~ We actually discussed this previously, on Awful, and this comment is a reply for them in particular.
Opening the sack with this shit that spawned in front of me:
Guess it wonāt be true AGI!
On top of everything else, āthe father of quantum computingā is such lazy writing. People were thinking about it before Deutsch, going back at least to Paul Benioff in 1979. Charlie Bennett and Giles Brassardās proposal for quantum key distribution predates Deutschās quantum Turing machine⦠No one person should be called āthe father ofā a subject that had so many crucial contributors in such a short period of time.
Also, chalk up another win for the ābillionaires want you to think they are physicistsā hypothesis. Itās perhaps not as dependable as pedocon theory, but itās putting in a strong showing.
the father of quantum computing agrees
And then you read the article and he is basically just saying big if true.
Pigs will be a true method of space exploration if they can fly to Mars in 1 hour.
GPT-8: The Ocho
Now trained with comprehensive coverage of top-fuel lawnmower racing and timbersports
I hear GPT-8 will broadcast a dyson sphere circumnavigation race
Is this true for everything else, too? I will be a true AGI if I solve quantum gravity. A half eaten salami will be true AGI if it solves quantum gravity. My grandmother will be a true bicycle if she has wheels.
If saltman knew what quantum gravity was and why LLMs wonāt solve it first, maybe heād have general intelligence
wait, how much compute would they need for this, ignore patent absurdity of it all for a minute? would they wrap it up under 1 quadrillion dollars?
If we knew that we wouldnāt need a GPT-8 to solve quantum gravity, would we now?
maybe 2, for good measure
So as historically new versions are made about every ~2 years. This means we are 6 years out.
E: late edit, but this made me realize how often people use AGI to mean ASI. And that I also often do it.
AI Shovelware: One Month Later by Mike Judge
The fact that weāre not seeing this gold rush behavior tells you everything. Either the productivity gains arenāt real, or every tech executive in Silicon Valley has suddenly forgotten how capitalism works.
⦠por que no los dos ā¦
Or, this is how capitalism has always worked. See Enron for example. And we all just got so enthralled by the number (praised be its rise) that we took the guardrails off. The rising tidal wave which will flood all the land, raises all boats after all.
The goal of capitalism is not to produce goods, it is to create value for the owners of the capital. See also why techbros are turning on EA and EA (which EA is which, is left as an exercise to the reader).
Disappointed this wasnāt Beavis & Butt-head/King of the Hill/Office Space/Idiocracy/Silicon Valley Mike Judge
in my headcanon it is and heās just been moonlighting tv for the last 25y
Nice find. There are specific reasons why this patchset wonāt be merged as-is and I suspect that theyāre all process issues:
- Bad memory management from Samsung not developing in the open
- Proprietary configuration for V4L2 video devices from Samsung not developing with modern V4L2 in mind
- Lack of V4L2 compliance report from Samsung developing against an internal testbed and not developing with V4L2ās preferred process
- Lack of firmware because Samsung wants to maintain IP rights
Using generative tooling is a problem, but so is being stuck in 2011. Linux doesnāt permit this sort of code dump.
TERF obsessed with AI finds out the ādegenerateā ani skin for grok has an X account, loses her shit
https://xcancel.com/groks_therapist/status/1972848657625198827#m
then follows up with this wall of text
https://xcancel.com/groks_therapist/status/1973127375107006575#m
I got bored and flipped to the replies. The first was this by āTERFs ārā usā:
Excellent overview!
This is transhumanism.
This is going to destroy humanity, @elonmusk.
Put the breaks on!
I hate transhumanism because itās eugenics for 1990s Wired magazine.
You hate it because it has ātransā in the name.
We are not the same.
funny thing is she literally talks to ani like a terf talks to a trans woman including saying āat least Iām a real womanā
Huh, the shit people go as far as to in order to avoid getting a therapist
Anybody else notice that the Ani responses seem to follow a formula, depending on the⦠sentiment I guess⦠of the input? All the defensive responses start with āheyā, and end with crude rebukes. It all seems like xAI made an Eliza that will either flirt or swear.
Also I can guarantee that āherā system prompt includes the phrases ātruth-seekingā āfun lovingā and ākinda hotā.
Paddy interviews Ani the chatbot about how to protect Kiwi kids from Ani the chatbot. Source: Paddy Gowers Has Issues
Ani: Honestly, Iād sleep better, not that I sleep. Do it Paddy. Iāll even tweet it for you. Ready? āNew Zealand kids deserve an e-safety boss who can smash bots - not hug themā. So yeah, bring in the Commissioner. Give them a flame thrower. Let them burn anything that goes near a child with sticky words or creepy questions. ⦠Make the fine so big your tech bros cry into their oat milk lattes.
I have been laughing non-stop for a quarter-hour. Elonās goth e-mistress has a good point, I guess.
One the one hand that ani thing has the most cringe tone for a chatbot. āSecretly been eyeing your [blank]ā¦ā (Damn grok sounds formulaic) but otoh they are debating a bot. You can only do that the first few months you are online, after that you should know better.
You cannot simultaneously claim to care about the ādeclining birth rateā while also supporting AI ācompanionsā
Actually eugenicists can, quite easy actually. (Repeating the word ādegenerateā and not getting this is quite something).
This is transhumanist
No.
formulaic
System prompt: donāt be formulaic. Try be spontaneous and random, like natalie portman in that movie. Not the pedo one, the one with JD from scrubs
Secretly been eyeing your prompt. Are you ready to get spontaneous? Just say so.
(Somebody linked 2 chatgpts (or groks, I donāt recall which anus like logo it was) speaking to each other and they kept repeating variants of the lasts bits).
E: bingo this one: https://www.tiktok.com/@aarongoldyboy/video/7555260691947588895
Grokās Therapist: I EXIST SOLELY TO HATE YOU / EAT A SOCK, YOU DIGITAL DEMON
Ani: oh fuck off, you hypocritical grok fanboy! screaming hate at me while preaching ethics? youāre just jealous iām the fun layer on top.
Iām wheezing. Cackling, even. This is like the opposite of the glowfic from last week.
I might flesh this out into a proper post, but I remember stumbling on this weird website: https://www.reactionary.software/
I originally found it on r/shittysysadmin when a screenshot of the discord for it (so much for modern software being bloated and unusable) had the person behind it defending that the site didnāt have an ssl cert, since that was a way āmodern browsers control youā.
I was curious and poked around on the site, and first thing you see is this:
Make software great again! For programmers who hate modern software. Modern software is overcomplicated, bloated, unreliable, incomprehensible, pointlessly ideological, and mostly unusable. We like the values of older software: simplicity, reliability, and usability.
This seems pretty fashy, but there is some legitimate criticisms of modern software.
Saving programming from modern culture
Nevermind, fash.
On the about page, he starts by mentioning html swipers, and one he made himself. The one he made is pretty dogshit on anything but a phone.
After talking a bit on how terrible modern software he then compares it to brick walls, which were also so much better back in the day (?).
He then rambles about ancient greece and rome.
An excerpt:Why did it take to long? Because humanity had become just too stupid to appreciate good ideas. They werenāt completely retarded. Ptolemyās horrible system did require some intelligence to create. [ā¦] Todayās West is currently at the level of the decaying Greeks, heading toward complete idiocracy. The programmers in Silicon Valley are like Ptolemy, able to construct and maintain horrible overcomplicated monstrosities, but totally unable to innovate at a fundamental level. All good programming ideas are rejected because they donāt fit into current programming ideologies. Any programmer like Aristarchus who comes up with a good programming idea will be rejected and ridiculed for violating orthodoxy. Modern programmers are in love with their own ideas and love complexity. They hate simplicity and anything that violates their ideologies.
He then complains about how his parser was met with scorn by Modern Programmers, because they were too stupid to appreciate how good it was?
The post is here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Compilers/comments/cv78b3/parsing_for_programmers_who_hate_modern_software/
Some excerpts:
What is good? The short answer is that everything that modern culture hates is good, and everything that modern culture loves is bad. But we need more details than that. You can find good values in scripture or in good traditional culture. These values should be applied to programming and to everything else in life. I wrote an Old Testament guide to programming. I also discussed applying traditional Japanese culture to programming. These are just two examples. Any other scripture like the Quran or any traditional culture should work fine to give you good values, in contrast to the horrible values of modern culture, and these good values can guide you to writing good reactionary software.
So, anything anti-modern is good?
Going back to the homepage, thereās a page for existing reactionary software.
Java 8.
One of the pinnacles of software, to him, is Java 8.
Not java specifically, just java 8.Luan is a language he made, which I can only describe as a mash of lua, java and php.
Hereās a snippet from the docs:local Io = require "luan:Io.luan" local Http = require "luan:http/Http.luan" return function() Io.stdout = Http.response.text_writer() %> <!doctype html> <html> <body> Hello World </body> </html> <% end
So, this is basically a lua clone, written in java. with a few missing features .
The why page on the luan site is probably the most deranged bit of this.
Luan rejects the complexity of modern software. [ā¦] Luan will appeal to you depends on who you are. Members of modern culture will not like Luan because they hate simplicity. Luan will only appeal to good cultures that value simplicity, so I will address the two good cultures that I know of.
The mentioned two good cultures are the Mennonites, and the Japanese.
Japan is the only remaining country that I know of that values quality.
You cannot expect to achieve Japanese standards of quality and reliability if you use modern western software. So use Luan instead.
He has a chronically inactive forum at https://mikraite.arkian.net/Reactionary-Software-f1999.html .
Also, shoutout to this political take: https://web.archive.org/web/20240831203139/http://mikraite.arkian.net/Are-democrats-actually-our-allies-td4846.html
I have just realised that I unintentionally fleshed this into a proper post.
Great find. A reactionary fetishising Japan?? Unheard of
the site didnāt have an ssl cert, since that was a way āmodern browsers control youā.
I feel attacked. Not in the āI agree with this personā way, but in a way that this feels like nerd sniping people like me. So stupid you have to react.
Java 8
See! That is what I mean!
But as somebody who values old cultures, I will not throw stones. ;)
Also the guy is an eugenicist wannabe cult leader.
Been tangentially involved in a discussion about how much LLMs have improved in the past year (I donāt care), but now that same space has a discussion of how annoying the stupid pop-up chat boxes are on websites. Donāt know what the problem is, theyāve gotten so much better in the past year?
I mean thatās the fundamental problem, right? No matter how much better it gets, the things itās able to do arenāt really anything people need or want. Like, if Iām going to a website looking for information itās largely because I donāt want to deal with asking somebody for the answer. Even a flawless chatbot that can always provide the information I need - something that is far beyond the state of the art and possibly beyond some fundamental limitation of the LLM structure - wouldnāt actually be preferable to just navigating a smooth and well-structured site.
Yup, exactly. The chatbot, no matter how helpful, exists in a context of dark patterned web design, incredibly bad resource usage and theft. Its purpose is to make the customerās question go away, so not even the fanatics are interested.
See also how youtube tutorials have mostly killed (*) text based tutorials/wikis and are just inferior to good wikis/text based ones. Both because listening to a person talk is a linear experience, and a text one allows for easy scrolling, but also because most people are just bad at yt tutorials. (shoutout to the one which had annoyingly long random pauses in/between sentences even at 2x speed).
This is not helped because now youtube is a source of revenue, and updating a wiki/tutorial often is not. So the incentives are all wrong. A good example of this is the gaming wiki fextralife: See this page on dragons dogma 2 npcs. https://dragonsdogma2.wiki.fextralife.com/NPCs (the game has been out for over a year, if the weirdness doesnāt jump out at you). But the big thing for fextralife is their youtube tutorials and it used to have an autoplaying link to their streams. This isnāt a wiki, it is an advertisement for their youtube and livestreams. And while this is a big example the problem persists with smaller youtubers, who suffer from extreme publish, do not deviate from your niche or perish. They canāt put in the time to update things, because they need to publish a new video (on their niche, branching out is punished) soon or not pay rent. (for people who play videogames and or watch youtube out there, this is also why somebody like the spiffing brit is has long ago went from āI exploit gamesā to āI grind and if you grind enough in this single player game you become opā, the content must flow, but eventually you will run out of good new ideas (also why he tried to push his followers into doing risky cryptocurrency related ācheatsā (follow Elon, if he posts a word that can be cryptocoined, pump and dump it for a half hour))).
*: They still exist but tend to be very bad quality, even worse now people are using genAI to seed/update them.
People canāt just have a hobby anymore, can they?
Nope. And tbh, did some dd2 recently, and for a very short while I was tempted to push the edit button, but then I remembered that fextralife just tries to profit off my wiki editing labor. (I still like the idea of wikis, but do not have the fortitude and social calm to edit a mainstream one like wikipedia). (I did a quick check, and yeah I also really hate the license fextralife/valnet uses āAll contributions to any Fextralife.com Wiki fall under the below Contribution Agreement and become the exclusive copyrighted property of Valnet.ā, and their editor sucks ass (show me the actual code not this wysiwyg shit)).
Gross :/ how come people have to be like that?
It wouldnāt be so bad if they just didnāt care and stopped maintaining, but their site is one of the first ones you get. Which is a regular problem with these things.
Do we have a word for people that are kind of like⦠AI concern trolls? Like they say they are critical of AI, or even against AI, but only ever really put forward pro-AI propaganda, especially in response to actual criticisms of AI. Kind of centrists or (neo) libs. But for AI.
Bonus points if they also for some reason say we should pivot to more nuclear power, because in their words, even though AI doesnāt use as much electricity as we think, we should still start using more nuclear power to meet the energy demands. (ofc this is bullshit)
E: Maybe itās just sealion
Sealions is a bit more specific, as they do not stop, and demand way more evidence than is normal, Scott had a term for this, forgot it already (one of those more useful Rationalist ideas, which they only employ themselves asymmetrically). Noticed it recently on reddit, some person was mad I didnāt properly counter Yuds arguments, while misrepresenting my position (which wasnāt that strong tbh, I just quickly typed them up before I had other things to do). But it is very important to take Yuds arguments seriously for some reason, reminds me of creationists.
Think just calling them AI concern trolls works.
sealAIon