Mind you, I’m biased since I’m not from the US, I’m Balkan. So a quick heads up there. Plus I’m a hardline commie so yeah. Just did some research on this because It caught my eye.

I haven’t really noticed this here or at Lemmygrad. But a lot of online “leftist” spaces, especially on Reddit, are over hyping this shit too much lmao.

Zohran so far:

This circlejerk about a social democrat getting elected is doing my head in, people are acting like the October revolution happened.

Just don’t act surprised when magically not much actual change happens in New York. Also don’t give me “Oh but the pipeline!!!1!”. Yeah If the pipeline actually worked, Bernie and AOC supporters would have been actual marxists by now (Also as a Serb, fuck Bernie, Parenti was right about your dumbass).

I have a pet peeve with American “anti-capitalists” in general. Where they constantly just whine how everything is expensive, no public transport and no free healthcare. Yet they’d probably be fine with the world suffering as long as they got those three things + whatever treats they want.

Don’t forget to join a good org nearby you, read and organize folks!

  • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    20 days ago

    Imma be pedantic and say: it depends. A timeline where the fascist slide eventually reverses is also likely one where China’s rise continues. If it reaches a point where the fossil fuel dominance the American empire is built on is no longer sustainable and China’s sitting on all the tech and resources needed for batteries and renewables, America isn’t going to have much of a choice but to play by the rules of a new global order. Which is to say, just as the imperial core uses the periphery to maintain itself, changes in the periphery can collapse the empire; the Vandals cross the Rhine.

    While the American empire is something that should come to an end, there can be a Monkey’s Paw element to thar. A post-imperial America that’s just a collection of fragmented, fascist states that’s constantly destabilizing global politics is not ideal. The “how” of the collapse is important.

    Now, that’s not to say I think social democracy has revolutionary potential. I just see the core limitation being that the bourgeoisie only tolerate it as long as there’s largesse to go around and the moment things tighten, social democracy is the first thing to go. And history has made it clear there’s not a revolutionary response to that.