• Broadfern@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    It should mean things like “boys will bond in silly ways like daring each other to eat gross food combinations or playfighting,” which is valid.

    What it ends up meaning is “we, as adults, refuse to actually accept responsibility to teach young kids and will now blame it on ‘nature’” which is egregious and consistently fails the younger generation. It’s frustrating.

    • NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip
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      Yes. It’s true that people can be inherently different, and it’s true that you can teach/ socialize them to treat others with respect anyway. Like the doctor studying psychopaths that discovered he himself was a psychopath. He had been taught how to treat people, regardless of his innate ability to empathize.

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    I had a buddy who’d make me a perfect latté exactly how I liked it every morning I slept over. We should teach all the boys how to use an espresso machine.

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    Essentially. Behavior comes from a few sources. Environmental/learned sources as well as biological. So if it isn’t wired into you, you learned it somewhere. This is true for everyone.

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        4 days ago

        Of course it’s simplified. And that’s exactly what I said. Biological needs include things our bodies do, need, seek. Things that keep us alive.

        This is my field, so I always hesitate to comment because I feel like I’m going to nerd out, or have to have this conversation where we get into ontogenetic and phylogenetic stuff.

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      Ooh, that’s my biggest beef with humanity: we most definitely can. The percentage of “born destructive” people is fairly low, and most dumb shit done by humans is something they learned to do (doing here includes thinking and emoting)

      But for some reason it still has not happened

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        Sorry if I’m jumping on a tangent here, I may have been triggered 😅

        I don’t really agree with the premise that it hasn’t happened yet. Not only are there few people with truly destructive tendencies, but I see most kids (regardless of gender) being raised quite nicely. Sure they may still do stupid stuff sometimes (who doesn’t?) but that doesn’t take away from them being nice overall.

        In my mind, the biggest beef with humanity is apathy/nihilism. Some people truly believe their actions have no consequences or if they do they don’t care about them. To me, this is a failure in education and one I attribute to a lack of spiritual awareness. Indeed thinking and emoting are part of that as acts of our inner spirit.

        This is the reason I started my Philosophy of Balance blog, hoping to inspire people to become more aware of themselves and their actions again.

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          By all means, do be triggered and jump on the train :)

          It hasn’t happened yet by a lot of metrics:

          do I see humanity neglecting every other life on the planet? - yes

          do I see idiots with power and ideas like “let’s wage war/pretend there is no gender/race-based discrimation” etc get instantly torn apart (literally) - no

          do I see people who look like they believe their actions have no consequences - yes

          … and this list can go on

          Thing is, humanity is many thousands years old, I am in my thirties. When most people still don’t get what I have already - this is a failure

          *important note: there is still work being done in this regard every day, which is no small feat