A commune or a cult would be better than this circus lol

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    Does the cult have a good plan for healthcare? If so, please send me your newsletter, manifesto, religious tract, pentabarf, whatever.

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    As somebody who was once part of a cult, it’s just the same circus but worse.

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    Already planning on it here in Canada once my friends and I have the money for what we want to do.

    Farming (+greenhousing) and some cottage rentals on the side.

    Peace out, modern society!

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      Cottage rentals for income?

      Currently my plan is to get far enough into my career that I can spend half my time in city making money and half in the woods

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        Exactly, cottage rentals for income. To supplement farming and other ventures, anyway.

        I’m lucky that my work is 99.9% remote, so as long as I can acquire a stable internet connect I can continue to work out there if needed. Existing entirely in the woods is incredibly appealing.

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          I like that idea. Continuing to make money, no matter if it’s just a few hundred dollars a month, is the main hurdle for me to leave. You’d still need to finance construction but it’s a good long term vision.

          I am worried about fire seasons/smoke seasons. At best it shortens the tourist season and at worst I lose everything : /

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            Yeah, that lack of startup capital is why I’m not doing it already. A bunch of us are saving to pool money together to self-finance. You can also just start with a couple of nice trailers (which you wouldn’t be able to charge as much for, of course) and gradually work towards full cottages. Some cottages in areas I frequent around here are just trailers and are still going for like $300 CAD a night in the middle of September.

            At least insurance should protect you against total loss?

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    I don’t come anywhere near close to meeting the requirements for intentional communities. Chronic illness is a real bastard. I don’t need much and the quality of my life could so easily be improved by just a little help from others, but everyone - even intentional communities - is caught up in focusing on how much others can help them. What I can give is less tangible, and therefore dismissed.

    I don’t want to abandon society but I do recognise we’d all be far better off if we lived in ways which were less isolating. Every person/family for themselves harms us all.

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      A huge problem is that most neighborhoods and houses aren’t facilitating community. You don’t need a commune or a cult as OP was joking.

      I live in a house where one of the apartments is used communally by all the other residents of the house and it changes so much. It doesn’t have a functioning bathroom so the landlords couldn’t give it up for rent. But it has a kitchen, a balcony etc.

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    If you’ve ever heard of WOOFing that’s a great place to start. It’s a work trade program I did years ago, tons of farms around the world. You get room and board, just work the farm for a short term. I traveled across Canada doing that years ago and ended up staying on one for 2 years in the discovery islands off the coast of BC. One of the best times in my life. Now I live in downtown Toronto, wondering why I ever came back ahaha

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    Why not a commune IN the city?

    Not saying this is you, but I feel like a lotta people who wanna live in the country also want all the city amenities - internet, garbage pickup, municipal sewage, etc.

    To me, the problem isn’t cities, it’s late stage capitalism - gentrifying neighbourhoods, driving rents beyond reach, displacing communities. Plus its zeal for car-focused infrastructure, conspicuous consumption. All that stuff.

    Anyway communal life is very appealing - I long for my college days of living in a house full of peers. Even if i’m off-base with my capitalism ruins the city argument, I think we’d all do better at coping with modern life with a wider support network.

    I hear they are growing more popular in the bay area? Gideon Lichfield, outgoing editor-in-chief at Wired, mentions he spends half his year living in a commune of sorts and would like to do it full time in this podcast.

    https://www.wired.com/story/have-a-nice-future-podcast-19/

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      I live in San Francisco. It’s not particularly “new” as the interview implies. Housing costs have been outrageous here for decades, so the degree to which apartments/housing are now unaffordable is only a reflection of the already ludicrous cost of living. Group housing is a “Bay Area thing” because it is solution to outrageous rents many cannot afford to pay alone. In some neighborhoods where it’s possible for people to go in on a share situation in one household, it works, but it’s actually becoming more difficult to find not more common, due to gentrification in tons of once affordable areas and the rise of things like VRBO and AirB&B gobbling up space which once existed on the long term market.

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        Thanks, I had no idea it had been developing this long. While Toronto area prices have been ridiculous for a while, I feel like we’re only now hitting an inflection point where we might start seeing arrangements as you describe. There’s tons of unoccupied or under occupied properties due to airbnb as well.

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    Very often I would like to abandon my life in reality and become a part of an ideal world which I have imagined. It is surprisingly easy to become part of a rural cult (look up “intentional communities”) so it’s a backup plan I have in mind if necessary, but with people we’re going to be dealing with a different version of the same set of issues. We as a species are nuts.

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        I used to live in a housing co-op and loved it. That being said you are going to have to deal with people intimately in that kind of living situation, so quality of life is greatly influenced by how well you mesh with the others around and things can change.

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    It’s a beautiful dream! Almost a decade ago my family and I left the city and bought land with some other folks. Now it’s just us out here in the wilderness, others are welcome but most people can’t leave the city.

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      It can’t be too “wild” out there, if you are able to pop into Beehaw…? 😂

      I would love someplace totally off the grid.

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        We got out of the city before door dash, grocery delivery, etc. so we don’t even know what we’re missing when we trek over a hundred miles to the Costco. I’d imagine that makes it easier!

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    No, but finding a job in a slightly less fucked country would be great once I have sufficient work experience.

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    I’ve thought for a while that it would be cool to buy up a block in a suburb and do urban farming as a community.

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      see if there are any community gardens in your area. they’re basically what you’re talking about, although usually only the land owner and/or farm manager lives there. my favorite one around here also has a rotating volunteer position who lives on site.

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    My dad did it back when he was a hippy.
    He still talks very fondly of the time he spent out in the Arizona desert all those decades ago.

    A piece of me would like to drop out of society and live in solitude.
    While I lean towards being a loner, I realized that I am probably mostly a hybrid.
    I enjoy some human interaction, but also love being alone to do whatever the fuck I want.
    To me a commune would be too intimate and I think would end up being like a small town type of scenario which doesn’t appeal to me.

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    What about a traveling circus? Bonuses: it’s mobile, it’s a circus by design, it’s inclusive, and goofing around is just part of the culture!

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    I would but in a commune they would probably just force me to mine or farm all day instead of doing a job I actually want