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      I don’t support them at all but I seriously believe that by calling them things they are not, you open up the term for more moderate but right leaning people. “If everyone is a Nazi, Naziism must not be so bad.”

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          I personally don’t even care about rhetoric pushback, it just makes american political discourse impossible to read or interact with. I don’t know how americans deal with this on a daily basis without just giving up and noping out of politics.

          When people talk about Nazis in my country’s political scene, they usually mean actual Nazis, skinheads covered in swastikas touting about and committing acts of violence on minorities, genuinely the worst kind of people you can possibly imagine. The same goes for fascists, probably because we got rid of fascism not that long ago. When americans (on the internet, at least) talk about Nazis or fascists, it’s a coin toss whether the person they’re talking about shares actual Nazi ideals, or is just someone very slightly right of center who they disagree with on some very specific issue. It just makes it impossible to interact with any american political discourse. Which would be fine if it was contained in specific communities, but it eventually spreads out to any community which has a large american user base.

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        If everyone is a Nazi, Naziism must not be so bad.

        I don’t know how you’d make that leap. Nazism is bad. Hence the people I called nazis are bad.

        moderate but right leaning people.

        There’s no such thing. lol.

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          If your definition of moderate is anything right of anarchism, I’m sorry to break it to you but you don’t understand the definition of the word. Conservatives are not Nazis.

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              That can be true and then still not be Nazis. Additionally, you pushing them that way doesn’t help the issue at all.

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              Then maybe discuss the ideas & groups to get them to either explain themselves or expose themselves… instead of calling them “national socialists” when that’s not what they are.

              Otherwise why stop at “nazis”? Might as well straight up call them murderers or rapists.

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        I think that anybody even considering that thought is probably already beyond help.