More insurance companies are fleeing the state because of the growing threat from natural disasters.

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    That’s fine, but what happens when this expands with the the increasing effects of climate change? What happens when Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas health insurance costs triple because of the risks of extreme heat? What about New Orleans or locations prone to extreme storms or hurricanes?

    Huge patches of countries all over the world are soon to become uninsurable because climate change makes it too dangerous to live there.

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      Yup. People gonna have to move.

      Remember when people said that climate change would cost us trillions of dollars? This is why.

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        And it’s gonna suck for most of us in a lot of ways. Like I moved up north partially because of politics back in 2014. Now some are eventually gonna follow and move up here as well. Plus, I can’t afford a house. A lot of people can’t afford one. But when more and more people come, we won’t have enough. Unless we see some real, meaningful changes in the way we handle housing, it’s gonna be a shit show.

        I was talking to my mom back in I think 2020 and the subject of the cost of a home came up. I told her how much they are here, and she said me and my boyfriend should move near her and some other family in St Louis. While I would love to be near family, I’m gay. I’m not moving to a red state. And I’m not looking to buy a house I will eventually need to abandon with no one buying it. That’s a lot of money to just lose.

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          A house is worth peanuts without water, this should be priority number one when purchasing a house. We should avoid cities and move closer to mountains where the rain will provide enough stream.

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            Plenty of cities have good access to water. It’s why most of them were built where they were in the first place. And for the most part, it’s the way you have the least impact on the environment.

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              Plenty of cities have good access to water. It’s why most of them were built where they were in the first place.

              That’s the way it used to be.

              Take the Rio Grande:

              Water restrictions ordered in Rio Grande Valley as drought persists

              ‘The actual lake is gone,’ Zapata County judge says

              McALLEN, Texas (Border Report) — The two largest cities in the Rio Grande Valley have implemented mandatory water restrictions as water levels in two reservoirs hit near-record lows due to an ongoing drought.

              Rathmell gave Border Report a tour of diminishing Falcon Lake on Thursday, and at the time advocated that cities downstream in the Rio Grande Valley should be forced to conserve water.

              Rathmell said that Falcon Lake is basically no more. It’s just an area where the Rio Grande river runs through.

              Cities will become traps. It was convenient before but now it is becoming a death trap, don’t purchase a house there, you become dependent on someone bringing food and water to you. If you are in the business of searching for a house, avoid cities.

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                You’re cherry picking your examples. Most cities still do have great access to water. And that “dependence” is called civilization. Everyone has their own jobs to do so that we’re not all each our own homestead living off grid. It’s more efficient and resilient that way.

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                    You listed the same example several times, in quotes, not sourced links, and you’re also fear mongering on the level of a conspiracy theorist with no reason for why this would affect cities in the northeast, for instance. Your advice of moving to the mountains, taken en masse, would just result in cities existing there…with the same source of water.

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          It’d be easier & cheaper to fix this one.

          We’re going to have to break a few eggs though, since we waited so long.

          By eggs I mean multinational corporations.

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            Some scientists theorize we’ve already passed the red line. The rest is just crowd control. Those eggs are gonna be broken but they’re probably gonna be a few billion people. Best to plan for the worst, hope for the best and doing both climate science and technical advances towards colonization.

            It’s not like the research and funding needs to go to one or the other. Never understood that argument, like what 10,000s of astrophysicists and engineers are just gonna be like “yeah let’s all stop or research today to save humanity” lmao.

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              Colonizing other planets is not a solution. It is vastly harder to terraform Mars than to repair the damage we’ve done to Earth. Multiple technological Holy Grails must be discovered in order to make it even remotely possible. Not happening.

              A colony established on Mars with current technology would be completely dependent on Earth for food and other supplies.

              If we’ve passed the red line already, then it’s all over and we may as well live it up while we still can.

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            “If I had a gun, with two bullets, and I was in a room with Automobile, Aviation and Advertisement, I would shoot Advertisement twice.”

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              Really? Automobile is plenty deserving, and shooting it means people have better options than flying for a lot of trips.

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      We say goodbye to our quality of life.

      Pensions are a result of our capacity to produce wealth, but as the cost of life will rise those pensions will be slowly erased. You’d better spare money as young as possible. The climate is guaranteed to get warmer for at least 20 years, whatever we do now. Based on the fact that we are not doing anything anyway you can safely bet on a constant raise of temperature for 40 years. So your pension will be your life savings.

      Arizona and the region of the lake Mead will probably stop honoring the laws about water, you know, a state cannot confiscate all the water for himself yadayada

      The importance of being vegan in one picture. But by now it’s too late anyway.

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      What about New Orleans or locations prone to extreme storms or hurricanes?

      It has already been happening in New Orleans for years now. There are very few insurers left.