• Linguistic_Biscuit@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    There’s a big difference between “9/11 was a conspiracy” and “9/11 was fake.”

    I think lots of folks agree that we didn’t get the entire story behind what happened that day.

    I think no one who was alive that day believes it was “fake.”

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      10 months ago

      I think lots of folks agree that we didn’t get the entire story behind what happened that day.

      I think that’s usually the line I hear before something absurd, inane, or insane is said.

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          10 months ago

          Government not being transparent doesn’t mean that every crackpot conspiracy theory is true or even plausible.

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            10 months ago

            Not every conspiracy.

            But ones that lead to starting baseless wars for oil and money are certainly worth asking questions about.

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              10 months ago

              Afghanistan doesn’t even produce oil. And the lie used to invade Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

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                10 months ago

                Correct. And neither Afghanistan nor Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. It has been proven over and over that it was the Saudis, but we don’t want to attack them.

                9/11 was used as an excuse to attack Afghanistan for their Taliban and strict religious beliefs. Then 9/11 was used as an excuse to invade Iraq for the WMDs. Both were not involved at all with 9/11.

                People and corporations made billions of dollars off these wars, and it’s reasonable to ask why they were started in the first place.

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                  10 months ago

                  Do you not remember the whole issue of the Taliban offering safe haven to Osama Bin Laden and refusing extradition? That was the whole fucking reason we invaded. Or do you think harboring a Saudi terrorist who just orchestrated a massive terrorist attack is being ‘uninvolved’?

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          10 months ago

          You don’t think the plane in PA getting shot down is plausible?

          No. Jesus Christ.

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      10 months ago

      The one thing that still makes me wonder about the whole thing is what the government was able to accomplish as a ‘solution’ to 9/11. From what I know about mk ultra, the crack epidemic, tuskegee, etc is that the government has no problems killing their own civilians to accomplish their goals.

      Not saying that’s what happened, but I just don’t trust the feds, or state governments

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      10 months ago

      Only thing that ever stood out so much for me was the WTC building 4 collapse. Idk I was pretty dumb and into YouTube conspiracies back then so maybe it was BS.

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        10 months ago

        Fire in a skyscraper is a huge issue.

        Debris from tower 2 started a fire in tower 7.

        And as anyone who works with steel can tell you, you don’t need to get it that hot before it bends like a limp noodle. A blacksmith can forge with a wood fire as long as it’s built up enough and has good air flow.

        Broken windows and flaming debris made for the perfect setup for an uncontrollable fire.

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    10 months ago

    Wake up, Sheeple! Bush Jr. was in the Air National Guard! A trained pilot! HE was the one flying the plane! smh, everyone falls for the “Terrorists doing things that they literally admit to doing for reasons that make sense within the context of their worldview and past actions” schtick when the obvious answer is right in front of them!

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    10 months ago

    Heat weakened structural steel cannot withstand a tight 330’ turn down thousands of feet!

    Wake up people!

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    10 months ago

    They are specifically discussing the Pentagon attack, not the entirety of the incidents that occurred on 9/11.

    They also never state it was fake, rather that the story provided doesn’t make a lot of sense so it seems like there is more to it.

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        10 months ago

        I didn’t say I agreed with it. Literally just pointing out what was being said in the comments. They didn’t say it was fake, they said the story didn’t make sense to them.

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            10 months ago

            I don’t know, go ask them? I’m not familiar with conspiracy theories to know what the fuck they are talking about.

            The issue is with the misrepresentation of the discussion. The OP says they believe 9/11 was fake, but in the discussion itself they only make vague comments about the “full story” not being told by officials. It doesn’t matter what they are having a hard time believing about the story, or what they think is missing from the story. They didn’t say, or hint at, them believing that 9/11 was “fake”.