• Gnome Kat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    Like China’s social credit system?

    or just like… credit scores… ppl act like china invented the dystopian social credit system but the US has been doing it since the 90s…

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      China:

      where every citizen will be scored based on their behavior. Good actions, like volunteering, and bad, like littering, are tracked using algorithms, artificial intelligence and facial recognition — and there are real consequences for a high or low score.

      Really? Does your bank change your credit score if you’re a good boy? Your credit card company if you volunteer? Your home loan company give you a better rate if you make a viral tiktok video showing how great the United States are?

      No? Of course not. Because they’re absolutely not the same thing.

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        My mom adding and subtracting Good Boy Points based on whether I do my chores or not is literally communism

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        Yes, your credit score goes up if you’re a good boy (helping rich people get more rich) and goes down if you’re a bad boy (being financially responsible by not borrowing money).

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        You do realise the thing you’re describing doesn’t exist? Like you’ve amplified the exaggerated headlines from people imagining how bad a social credit system could be but that’s not something that has ever actually existed.

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      Credit scores need to go away too, but if you are unironically comparing a credit score with what China is doing, you are either extremely naive or extremely biased.

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        I hate the ccp but credit score in China is a giant propaganda lie, it is the same as in the us. They wanted to make experiments with more advanced scoring system but never did, and for some reason every media say they did. But you ask someone from China and he won’t understand what you’re talking about. Still fuck the ccp (and reddit)

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          The Chinese government is testing several systems in the country and last I checked nothing is formally in place. There are versions whose system does include non-financial elements which is incredibly disturbing but nothing is formally being followed so it is possible they abandon those versions.

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      In the UK you can be blacklisted from all sorts of services if you have a criminal record or poor financial history. And our police have experimented with facial recognition + have arrested people for posts on social media. Not to mention the Tory government trying to outlaw protest & dissent.

      But we’re quick to make jokes about China

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      US credit scores are entirely based on your finances. My understanding is China has multiple systems being tested some of which are not based purely on finances but nothing is formal or universal at this point.

      China’s system could be more authoritarian but we cannot know until they choose a version that is.