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He had a knife… on a stick.

I’ll need to see the video on this one, officers, but for now, mark me as damned skeptical that this killing was self-defense.

  • Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Shit, maybe we should hit them with sedating meds from a fucking tranq gun.

    You guys are off the deep end.

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      1 year ago

      The deep end is murdering people with a mental health crisis.

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        1 year ago

        He said officers tried to calm Mora down before twice using a Taser on him. They then fired beanbag rounds before ultimately killing him, the man said.

        Sounds like they exhausted every other option to me.

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      1 year ago

      So just so I’m clear…

      Shooting him = Totally justified

      Incapacitating him = off the deep end

      Must be a fun reality to live in buddy

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        1 year ago

        You’re off the deep end for thinking that would work, tranquiliser darts aren’t really a thing for people.

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          1 year ago

          Tranquilizers do work on humans though. So do tasers or several other non-lethal options, which is really the point people are making while you’re choosing to be pedantic.

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            1 year ago

            It’s pretty common for a tazer to not work, for various reasons, and if it doesn’t, your chances of getting your firearm out before they get to you are slim to none. Similar story with this hypothetical tranquiliser gun.

            Would you take that chance?

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              Police are trained and supposed to take that non-lethal force chance, yes absolutely. I am personally not a cop, because I don’t want to be in those situations. But people that DO sign up to serve and protect the public should be held to a higher standard than the general public, especially considering the tools, training, and resources (money) police forces have at their disposal.

              You’re not going to convince me the only way to safely end this altercation was by shooting the mentally ill man to death. We have to ask ourselves how we can do better so we can learn from these situations and less people die violent deaths.

              To use your your logic: why do tranquilizers even get produced at all then? Why don’t we just shoot every unruly animal? Wild and sick animals are just as or more dangerous than a man with a knife on a stick.

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                He said officers tried to calm Mora down before twice using a Taser on him. They then fired beanbag rounds before ultimately killing him, the man said.

                They did try other options before shooting him though. It unfortunately sounds like they ran out of options.

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                  1 year ago

                  He had a knife taped to a stick.
                  They put numbered him.

                  They could have done a lot more than just kill him.

                  We don’t have video anyways to know exactly what happened.

                  None of the officers were wearing body cameras.