I’m not sure about that. The Newcastle home game against psg with the whole crowd making noise throughout the game beats a few thousand ultras behind a goal being told what to sing by a bloke with a microphone for me personally but the average atmosphere at a bundesliga game is superior to what most premier league games get.

This is basically true for all premier league teams. People love to wank themselves to death over the special atmosphere at anfield on champions league nights and while it can be special the average atmosphere there for league games isn’t anything of note. Atmospheres in England just aren’t the same as in Europe. We ebb and flow with the game a lot more than happens in Germany, Italy, Turkey etc. Personally I think when English atmospheres are good they beat out the constant noise of the ultras you tend to see on the continent but for an average premier league game the atmosphere tends to be not great.