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  • I might be in the minority here, but I think retconning hard earned, character defining/shaping/progression arcs is a bad thing.

    No, I agree with you, I’d just never really thought it through with The Master/Missy. And we don’t know how many extra regenerations they were given in the Time War, so there’s plenty of room if we assume the great (and tragically underused) Derek Jacobi was “reset” to One, Missy could potentially be Thirteen, and then there’s plenty to play with in the middle.

    I do at least think the genocide thing with the Doctor was handled well - because of some “you don’t really remember future events” shenanigans when meeting multiple versions of yourself, all of the Doctors from John Hurt to Matt Smith “remembered” making that decision, and it was compassion from that experience that led him to go back to be there when he did it, and finally realising he could have a second chance at it. It doesn’t undo anything Ecclestone or Tennant went through.

    And while it was a good couple of Doctors, lifting that shadow means that Gatwa can be more cheerful and optimistic, but still with the dark side of having fought in the war and knowing he COULD have made that decision of he’d had to. It stops the Doctor just getting potentially grimmer and grimmer as more and more terrible things keep happening.


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    On the one hand, yes. And it does make a good tragedy.

    On the other? We’ve seen the Master be turned into a cat person, exterminated by the Daleks, sucked into the Eye of Harmony and be dragged back into the Time Locked end days of the Time War (although I suppose that could be where he regenerates into Dhawan and kills all the Time Lords).

    Don’t rule out Missy’s successor returning, is what I’m saying…

    Edit: oh, also, since Missy has at least vague memories of meeting herself when she was Simm, she’s had a while to figure out a solution.



  • Personally, I’d say yes if they’ve heard of Captain Kirk and Mister Spock.

    Not all of it, but a couple of select episodes such a Space Seed and Balance of Terror.

    Then a couple of TNG episodes like The Measure of a Man and Q Who

    If they’re into it after that, some TOS films (2,3 and 4 come to mind) and a few more TNG episodes in order.

    The first couple of DS9 episodes to see if they like the space station format, but after season 2 or 3 I think those need to be watched in order really.

    Then Voyager, then Enterprise.

    If they don’t get on with TNG, maybe look at the first few episodes of Discovery. If that’s a bit grim for them, Strange New Worlds should be light enough.

    Prodigy might be a good start if they don’t want to watch 60 years of legacy Trek to catch them up.

    And Lower Decks is nice and light but I think they’d get far more out of it if they have some reference on what’s being riffed on.